< I don't understand how one can be a Christian and not see the mass, mindless worship of a false idol that is clearly happening in the case of Obama or fail to be troubled by it. Why is it when Bush says he prays the entire media makes a big stink over his irrational beliefs, and he's the brunt of countless nights of comic jokes over it.
But Obama's worshippers can yell out "Oh glorious God, thank you" and tell him they pray for him, and he can confirm to them that, yea, he believes in prayer, in an official government organized rally, and that's honky-dory?> You don't know??? You mean to say you still don't get it? Bush is regarded not so much as evil, but as terminally stupid. He has a reputation for being slow and barely articulate. When Bush says he prays, the media are mocking God - in large manner because of Bush's appalling record as president. This was EXACTLY what I posted earlier. There are a large number of very vocal Christians who can only be described as incredibly stupid, ultra-right-wing relatives of hillbillys. They do the Gospel immeasurable harm by their stupidity and they make themselves targets. Obama is not stupid, nor is he illiterate or inarticulate; quite the contrary. He says he prays, but what else does he do? He bans tortures. He says he worships God, but he also brings hope to a generation and not despair. THESE are Christian attributes. Every time Bush said he was a Christian I wished he'd shut up. He was a terrible advertisement for my faith; a man who abrogated the tenets of faith so many times - not out of evil intent, but out of sheer breathtaking stupidity. No reasonable person mocks Billy Graham for his faith and the fact that he prays (and he is just as well known as Bush). The reason is quite simple: Billy Graham lives and breathes his faith while Bush put it up for international ridicule. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob Calco Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:55 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Obama's Message to America's Middle Class Today > I am in awe at the paranoid rantings that appear here at times. I'm > sure > they sound all quite plausible and logical to you but trust me, they > aren't. Explain to me logically how adding nearly $10 trillion (or 20%) to national debt in a few short months helps the finances of any country, or correlates as a sensible reaction to what happened on Sept 18 in any way. Indeed, explain to me what's going on, if you're such an arbiter of logic and plausibility. Who ran on the banks on Sept 18 from noon till two PM? Why did they pull out all of a sudden, in the middle of an election season? Where did the TARP money go? Why did gas shoot up to $145/barrel before the election and immediate drop to just under $40 barrel immediately after it? Why is creating a czar of health IT (and the massive invasion of privacy that involves) a "stimulus" feature? What is stimulative about spending on various STD programs? Why is so much (borrowed) money being pumped without any idea what they're actually going to be spent on in advance? How is this prudent? Why the colossal political payback in something that is supposed to be an emergency bill? Why the lack of deliberation, why the doom-and-gloom, "imminent threat" language used to promote its hasty passage? Have we learned nothing from the Iraq war? Why is Obama giving "rebates" to people who pay no taxes, and are more likely to spend the money on Walmart goods or pot and crack cocaine than invest in the capital and job base of the nation? Explain to me logically how it's OK for the cult-of-Obama that is clearly going on in the media and among those who think it's government's job to guarantee them benefits and jobs is good for America? > I'd heard of the Christian ultra right-wing nutjobs and seen a few of > their > websites in the past but I didn't expect to actually be communicating > with > them. As a committed Christian I am appalled at the language, the > attitudes > and frankly the idiocy of people who claim to be Christ's followers on > this > list. I don't doubt you're Christian faith, don't doubt mine or anybody else's. We all come from different perspectives. I usually appreciate yours even when I think it's totally off base (when is usually when the topic is not Christian faith). I tend to use colorful language to express my irony or outrage, and sometimes I overstep. For example, I felt convicted that I was a bit too hard on the folks I called morons in my post, even though if you watch the videos it's hard to come up with very many kind words to describe the shameful groveling to this phoney messiah that they engaged in, of their own free will. All I can say is they are clearly spiritually broken, and looking for a messiah. Unfortunately for them and everyone else, this guy ain't it. He is a counterfeit messiah. Yes, an anti-Christ. Take the old lady for example. Is she aware that she has sold her soul for a kitchen sink and a car? Obama's going to hook her up, and use her as a perpetual campaign prop. And Jose? He's the poster child of our modern education system---and the reason why Obama is in office. I don't understand how one can be a Christian and not see the mass, mindless worship of a false idol that is clearly happening in the case of Obama or fail to be troubled by it. Why is it when Bush says he prays the entire media makes a big stink over his irrational beliefs, and he's the brunt of countless nights of comic jokes over it. But Obama's worshippers can yell out "Oh glorious God, thank you" and tell him they pray for him, and he can confirm to them that, yea, he believes in prayer, in an official government organized rally, and that's honky-dory? When is Jon Stuart or Bill Maher going to mock Obama for his faith? The answer is never because they know he's an anti-christ. This is all part of a bigger deception. The number of tax cheats and lobbyists and hardcore partisans and radical ideologues he's put in his administration should be a source of concern to any citizen, regardless of faith, I think. But I don't call you out as some kind of phoney Christian just because you don't think my way, or your spirit doesn't tell you what mine tells me. The only time I don't enjoy one of your posts is when you take a time out to paint yourself as more righteous or holy than other Christians before non-Christians on the list. - Bob [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
