Jim,

  Yes, you need to know when something is broke to fix it.

  I still remember when I first came to this list after just starting to
learn VFP and laminated the fact that the query designer could not even be
counted on to do anything more complex then a simple two table join without
screwing up (and even that wasn't always possible).  For a data-centric
development tool, that was deplorable.

  I was quite pleased to see that significant work was done on the query
designer in the next release and that someone listened.  But if we had not
done a little "bashing" on this list, in all likelihood it might never have
gotten fixed.

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And my "bashing", as I've tried to point out wasn't really that, although it
could have been construed that way. The real goal was VFP-selfish, to
strengthen our platform and make our products better.

So there is "bashing" and there is "bashing", not the confuse the two <s>,
but to respond to David Boatright's post which started this thread, that
things aren't always as they seem to be.

I don't, and don't think anyone else here does, hate MS. Our largest gripe,
lack of marketing, turned out to be well justified. In any case, we've been
cast adrift (or set free, depending on viewpoint), so talking to or about MS
has just about lost it's relevance. It would be nice to think that MS will
release VFP9 SP3 to repair the problems (from insufficient testing
resources, I think) in SP2, but I haven't seen or heard anything that would
encourage that thinking, so SP2 looks like the end of MS's involvement with
the product - save not killing it, of course.

I, and I imagine everyone else here, have benefited greatly over the years
from the knowledge sharing spirit, and only wish to encourage it. Calamitous
world events turned my attention from work-related issues to the OT section
of the list because I feel very strongly about such matters, only to waste a
huge amount of time going in circular arguments and being heckled: thus was
born my great distaste for the 'fractional element' I speak so unfondly of.



Bill


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