Bob Calco wrote: >> The American Thinker is an extremely conservative, Republican PAC, that >> publishes very biased propaganda attacking the Democratically >> controlled >> Congress and Obama Administration. I take anything appear in "American >> Thinker" about as seriously as I do news from "Swift boat Veteran for >> Truth" and Rush Limbrugh. LOL >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Thinker >> > > Typical... spend more time coming up with reasons to dismiss somebody's > considered opinion than actually considering it. > > Leland, your Man is in power now, with a Congress more chock full of willing > accomplices than anything Bush had at his disposal; now all your ridiculous > prophesies about what the dreaded "religious righter" neo-cons were supposed > to do to free speech, separation of powers, deficit spending, etc, are being > fulfilled and outdone by several orders of magnitude via what your party and > President propose to do, and are already doing---and you'll be cheerleading > them the whole way, your skull completely void of a hint of its own twisted > contradictions. >
The Obama Administration is simply cleaning up after 8 year of failed Bush Administration/Neo-conservative policy. You should feel lucky that the Obama Administration is forward looking; rather, than investigating the abuses of power and illegal acts that took place during the Bush Presidency. However, the Bush Administration has not been so lucky with the Spanish courts: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/29/guantanamo-bay-torture-inquiry > Bush on some level in retrospect certainly did a lot to get us on this path. > The irony is that it's all you Bush haters that are taking every evil thing > you blame him for and accused him of doing to altogether new levels of > actuality and absurdity. > > Doubling the deficit in 8 years bad? Let's quadruple it in 2! Debt is so bad > that we must take on orders of magnitude more of it, in order to get out of > it. Obviously. > The Bush Administration policies and spending were used to prop-up a false economy allowing an ever growing housing bubble to continue to build pressure to dangerously high levels, so when the bubble finally burst, it devastated the economy. The danger right now is not inflation from deficit spending. The danger is deflation. As the USA/world economies decline, business fail, people are thrown out of work, banks fail, consumer spending declines to levels where supply exceeds demand and business and labour must both reduce prices to sell their products, (eg the big Christmas discounts to move merchandise). A the panic continues it become a perpetual downward spiral feeding on itself as capital is destroyed. To reverse this downward economic trend, spending must be increase to strength the demand side of the equation, and one of the most effective way to stimulate demand is to put more money into the hands of banks, businesses, and consumers. Once the economy stabilizes/normalizes, a foundation should be in place upon which to grow the economy to provide the revenues need to pay down the deficit/national debt. If the economy beings to heat up, then the problem of inflation will be address. > Government control of private individual choices bad? Let's make the > Government CEO of every major industry, allow it to void legal contracts at > will, specifically identify individuals for retroactive taxation, and tell > companies what products to produce by when for how much! > Our country is currently being run by what I term "Aristocratic Capitalist", which tend to put their own self interest ahead of everybody and everything else. The Aristocratic Capitalist have created an ever widening divide between the ruling class and the middle/poor class, and it has reach the point where it has become extremely destructive/hurtful to not only most Americans, but to the country as a whole. My definition of Aristocratic Capitalist: I'm going to coin a new term: "Aristocratic Capitalist". Our country, especially the USA economy, is today run by a group of Aristocratic Capitalist. The Aristocratic Capitalist are men and women of great wealth and power, who over the years have managed to put together dynasties. The Aristocratic Capitalist send their kids to the finest schools and universities in the country like Harvard, Yale, and other ivy league universities. These student are tapped to join elite fraternities like "The Skull and Bones", which is a secret society of Yale University, and the members of these fraternities form closely knit networks of power. These men and women are groomed to become the leaders of our country, and upon graduation assume position at the highest levels in Government, Business, Industry, and the Military. The Aristocratic Capitalist feel they are members of a ruling class; noblemen in a hierarchy where the level of one's royalty is measured by the rank of one's wealth. They are noblemen who have been taught, and who have developed, tastes, and manners characteristic of members of an aristocracy, well above the sensibilities of commoners. They run the country based on aristocratic rules, and they feel they are privileged; entitled to the best, most elegant, most stylish, and most lavish of everything. The Aristocratic Capitalist live in a different world than the rest of us, and have no desired to be limited by government funds that impose conditions restricting exorbitant privileges. > Bossing other countries around bad? Let's tell the G20 what they must do to > make The One happy, in terms of stimulus spending. They voted for him too. > Opening a dialogue with other countries to coordinate a world wide economic recovery sound like a good idea to me. I don't think President Obama, or anyone else can tell any other countries how to run their own economies. LOL > Iraq quagmire is unwinnable? Let's use its success as a model for > Afghanistan! Send More Troops! > The reduction of violence in Iraq probably has more to do with the USA finally announcing a planned withdrawal date than anything else. Of course, hiring Sunni military fighters, at $300.00 per month, to be our allies in the fight against Al-Qaeda in Iraqi also probably helped. LOL > FISA is bad for civil liberties? Let's renew it, fight in the courts to > preserve it, and while we're at it go after gun ownership too! > Protecting the homeland with adequate security and adhering to protections guaranteed by the USA constitution are not mutually exclusive. Illegal government acts approaching a police state are unacceptable. You might want to watch a very revealing movie, "The Lives of Others", (eg see link below). It is a movie about life in east Berlin during the mide 80s to early 90s. During that period there were 200,000 Stasi, (eg secret police) in east Berlin that only had a total population of 17 million. The movie depicts life in a state in which the secret police were into the lives of everybody. Some of the methods used during those day were sophisticated, but imagine what could be going on today. Giving the exponential nature technology, method today would be light years ahead of what was going on the the 80s. The movie is in the German language, so you may need to view it with an English subtitle. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_lives_of_others/ > Government poking around in divisive moral issues bad? Let's get the > government full-bore into deeply controversial funding of abortion, genetic > engineering and other morally divisive initiatives, no holds barred! > Using science in ways that are moral and ethical is a good thing, and will yield benefits. > One party in charge of all three branches of government bad? Let's do it > again, with bigger majorities for the winning party! > Most congressmen place their personal values, and duties to serve their constituent above party, so the idea of party lines is not an absolute. Its best when partisanship can be put aside to do what is best for the country. > I tried to warn you that Obama is the reductio ad absurdum of everything you > think Bush was and more, an authoritarian in populist savior clothing, and a > ruthless leftist ideologue who is posing as a thoughtful bipartisan leader. You must be the most astute observer I've ever encounter to have formed such a definition of President Obama in such sweeping terms; and he's only been in office for a little over two months. LOL > > > You were warned. Now that it's happening you are without excuse. > > - Bob > > > Regards, LelandJ > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

