Question:  What is the difference between a Recession and a Depression?

Anwser:  A recession is when the man down the street loses his job, and 
can't fund work.  A Depression is when you loses your job and can't find 
work.

Regards,

LelandJ
 



Bob Calco wrote:
> http://bit.ly/hx4DJ
>
> - - -
> Before talking about how we did get here, let me say a quick word about what
> didn't cause this mess.  Those who wish to blame greed for the crisis need
> to explain how and why it is that greed seems to causes crises only at
> specific times, despite the fact that it is omnipresent as a feature of
> human nature and market economies.  As the economist Larry White has noted,
> if we saw a bunch of planes crash all on the same day, we wouldn't blame
> gravity.  It's always there.  Something else must be at work.  I would argue
> that the key is the set of institutions through which greed or self-interest
> is channeled.  That is, good institutions can cause self-interest to
> generate desirable unintended consequences, and bad ones can cause
> undesirable ones.  So perhaps we should be looking at institutions and
> policy.
>
> Those who wish to blame deregulation or the supposed "laissez-faire"
> philosophy of the Bush Administration are going to have to identify the
> deregulation in question, which will be a challenge given that the last
> deregulatory legislation in the financial industry was in 1999 under
> Clinton.  These folks will also have to explain how the enormous growth in
> the Federal Register and domestic spending over Bush's two terms reconciles
> with his supposed belief in laissez-faire.  Answer: it doesn't. 
>
> The two key causes of this crisis are expansionary monetary policy on the
> part of the Fed and a series of regulatory and institutional interventions
> that channeled that excess credit into the housing market, creating a bubble
> that eventually had to burst.  In other words, the boom (and the inevitable
> bust) are the product of misguided government policy, not unbridled
> capitalism.
>
> The Fed drove up the money supply and drove down interest rates very
> consistently since 9/11.  When central banks do so, they make long-term
> investments relatively cheaper than short-term ones, thus the excess funds
> flow toward such goods.  Historically, these were producer goods in capital
> industries, but in this particular case, a set of other government
> interventions and policies pushed those funds toward housing.
>
> A state-sponsored push for more affordable housing has been a staple of
> several prior administrations.  Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are key players
> here.  Although they did not orginate the questionable mortgages, they did
> develop a number of the low down-payment instruments that came into vogue
> during the boom.  More important, they were primarily responsible for the
> secondary mortgage market as they promoted the mortgage-backed securities
> that became the investment vehicle du jour during the boom.  Both Fannie and
> Freddie are, we must remember, not "free-market" firms.  They are
> "government-sponsored entities," at one time nominally privately owned, but
> granted a number of government privileges, in addition to carrying an
> implicit promise of government support should they ever get into trouble.
> With such a promise in place, the market for mortgage-backed securities was
> able to tolerate a level of risk that truly free markets would not.  As we
> now know, that turned out to be a big problem.
>
> Other regulatory elements played into this story.  Fannie and Freddie were
> under significant political pressure to keep housing increasingly affordable
> (while at the same time promoting instruments that depending on the
> constantly rising price of housing) and extending opportunities to
> historically "under-served" minority groups.  Many of the new no/low
> down-payment mortgages (especially those associated with Countrywide) were
> designed as reponses to this pressure.  Throw in the marginal effects of the
> Community Investment Act and zoning laws that crowded residential
> development into less and less space in many large cities, not to mention
> the bully pulpit arguing for more affordable housing of at least the last
> two presidents, and you have the ingredients of a credit-fueled and
> regulatory-directed housing boom and bust.  And all of this was happening
> with the enthusiastic support of much of the private sector, who benefitted
> from the wealth generated by the government-induced boom.
>
> ...
>
> The Obama Administration's 2009 budget is also connected to the current
> mess.  According to the president, the reason we got into this mess is that
> we apparently spent too much on housing, the financial sector, and debt in
> general and not enough on the core issues of the environment, health care,
> and education.  For the life of me, I cannot see how such a theory can
> explain anything of what's happened the last six months, but it does serve
> to create a rationale for a budget that contains a whole bunch of new
> initiatives that don't obviously seem to be related to the Great Recession.
> At a time when the US government has taken on a whole bunch of new debt with
> the bailouts and the stimulus, one would think that the next year's budget
> should show more restraint and focus on issues central to economic recovery.
> As many commentators have noted, it's hard to both argue that too much debt
> got us into this mess and that more will get us out. 
>
> Instead, as several members of the administration have said quite
> explicitly, they see this crisis as an "opportunity" to promote a variety of
> long-standing economic reforms.  Again, at a time when the federal
> government is already deeply in debt, planning to spend hundreds of billions
> on new initiatives having nothing to do with recovery seems a bit strange.
> It's especially ironic in light of the accusations make by the likes of
> Naomi Klein that it was the Bush Administration and conservatives in general
> who manufactured or jumped on crises as a way to push through their
> long-standing free market policies.  Even the most cursory study of American
> history would show that crises grow the state and destroy the market, and
> now we have the explicit evidence in front of us from Rahm Emmanuel and
> Hilary Clinton.  In any case, whatever the merits of this spending on its
> own, none of it will do anything to promote recovery.
> - - -
>
> What he said.
>
> - Bob
>
>
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