> If you believe and have hate in your heart you are fooling yourself
> Pete.  Call it anything you want to grasp the idea. 

I agree on this point.

"Whoever says, "I love God," but hates his brother is a liar. The one who
does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love the God whom he has
not seen." (1 John 4:20)

This is hard truth with which all of us struggle.

> Sin is one that
> many can easily see.

?

> 
> Either way you need to be both in the eyes of God if you call yourself
> a believer, yet God will accept those who are not believers because of
> their proper actions.  At least that is how I grasp the theology of
> St. Paul in his books.

Eee. Be careful with this interpretation. 

"But without faith it is impossible to please Him; for he that cometh to God
must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently
seek Him" (Hebrews 11:6).

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His
mercy He saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy
Ghost" (Titus 3:5).

"Except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God" (John 3:3).

"Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is no other name under
Heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12).

"Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of
the law." (Romans 3:28)

You are probably referring to the passage in Romans where he talks about
Gentiles and others who are a "law unto themselves," who having not the law
(i.e., the Torah) nonetheless obey it in their hearts, their conscience
apparently bearing witness in the absence of the law:

"For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things
contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves"
(Romans 2:14).

It does not say they are saved, just that when they have the law in their
hearts even without knowledge of the law through religious tradition, then
they are a law unto themselves. Remember, Paul's major point throughout his
writings was that the law itself -- of which he was one of the most
perfect(ionist) practitioners -- was, to his professional consternation,
totally insufficient for salvation. It is only by faith in God's mercy, as
expressed through the "Passover" sacrifice of his own son, the sacrifice
that he spared Abraham, combined with our inner knowledge of our complete
inability to attain salvation without that mercy, that our spirits are
regenerated (born again) and become alive to God.

Then the hard part begins. :)

- Bob

> 
> 
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> Stephen Russell
> Sr. Production Systems Programmer
> Web and Windows Development
> Independent Contractor
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