At 12:36 AM 1/1/2010 -0500, Publius Maximus wrote: >http://bit.ly/6WtTLv ... >and > >http://bit.ly/5M4Iip ...
In this whole mess, if we really want to make intelligent decisions, we need to examine all facts. And unfortunately, those facts are becoming very hard to get to. We've let too many people get by with very shoddy "scientific" papers. We have to face that and understand it. Yes, the leaked emails imply (if not outright state) GW data was doctored in certain papers. Yes we've seen a lot of the GW "foundation" papers come to light as having flawed reasoning, etc. Yes we have global measurements of the general average of the overall planet's temperature and the trend seems to be rising. Yes there is BIG MONEY involved in studying climate change. That last point is probably the single most detrimental barrier to getting to the truth. It seems science is no longer about truth, it's for sale to the highest bidder. Right now, the GW advocates are paying top dollar. One thing is pretty sure - any "study" that is published from ANYWHERE needs to be received with quite a bit of skepticism. The first step would be to find out who funded the study. The next would be to look at the provided raw data. Yep, raw data. I know that doesn't sound appealing to a lot of folks... it's easier to just say "The experts said this data means xyz." But that just means you're easy prey for manipulation (from either side of an argument). If you really want to improve "scientific" reports, praise and support those that provide real data (that can be verified independently). And for those reports that don't give their data, deride them, make fun of them, but for goodness sake never put faith in them. It truly is a sad story that things have come to this. I suppose it's to be expected. Every other endeavor man has performed eventually becomes subject to his depravity. With no ultimate sense of right and wrong, why would anyone feel guilty about falsifying data to prove their point... they just do what they have to for the money. -Charlie _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

