Nicholas Geti wrote:
> Doesn't look to me like you ever took a course in experimental design and 
> measurement.
>   

LOL
And what is the relation of that to the issue?
You answer none of my arguments. What's more, you seem to have
completely forgotten your original argument.
I think there is no possible communication with someone who can't follow
a line of reasoning, and can't stop contradicting himself in the same
paragraph.

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ricardo Aráoz" <[email protected]>
> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] The Fallacy of Gray
>
>
>   
>> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>>     
>>> I got all that originally. But in order to say something is wrong you 
>>> have
>>> to know what is correct. Therefore since no one can say that it is either
>>> wrong or correct, then the discussion is all hot air.
>>>
>>> You height example doesn't demonstrate anything. All measurements of the
>>> physical world are wrong
>>>       
>> WHAT!!!?!?!?!?!
>> How do you know? Do you know the "right" measurements? You don't ? Then
>> according to your previous paragraph "in order to say something is wrong
>> you have to know what is correct". So which is it? Don't you have the
>> wit to not contradict yourself in two subsequent paragraphs?
>>
>>     
>>> ; there is a tolerance that always exist for any
>>> given measurement.
>>>       
>> How do you know the error of your measurement without knowing the
>> "correct" measurement? That does not seem possible..... or else your
>> first paragraph is the babble of an idiot.
>>
>>     
>>>  You cannot say one is less wrong than the other.
>>>       
>> Now you contradict yourself in the SAME paragraph. Man! Are you on
>> drugs? Because I hate reasoning with dimwits.
>>
>>     
>>>  In your
>>> height example we know that it can be measured to a closer tolerance than
>>> your numbers so any number outside what we normally accept as reasonable 
>>> is
>>> considered wrong. All others are said to be correct.
>>>
>>> I would not get into a philosophical argument as to which one is wronger.
>>> That smacks of the same discussion of the early Greek philosophers who
>>> figured they could logically determine the number of teeth in a horse's
>>> mouth. I would just go out and count and forget wasting my time trying to
>>> deduce the answer. In other words if you cannot come up with a model or 
>>> set
>>> of assumptions you cannot deduce anything.
>>>
>>>       
>> But the models are not "right" (in a non-moral way). Models adjust
>> better to the data at hand than other models. And then you have models
>> that adjust better to certain applications of the model and not others
>> (e.g. the wave/particle models for light). So there you have, the grays
>> and shade of grays. Just what we were talking about.
>> But of course, if you are on drugs you got nothing I just said.
>> Sigh.....
>>
>>
>>     


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