The U.S. is infested with gangs who contribute most to the gun killings. You are lucky in Australia not to have violent drug gangs linked to drug cartels right across the border. Most cities in the U.S. have a neighborhood that I wouldn't dare walk through during the day let alone at night. e.g. New Haven, CT; Bridgeport, CT; New London, CT.
You also have to distinguish between handguns and rifles. Very few Americans have handguns and those that do keep them locked up in a safe place. On the other hand I venture to say that many have rifles but do not walk around with them because they are cumbersome. Most killings are by handguns either accidently or on purpose. ----- Original Message ----- From: "geoff" <[email protected]> To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Welcome to Deemocracy > And just as with Pete I ask how a figure of 32000 changes the substance of > the argument? Is 32,000 dead from guns an acceptable figure whereas 50,000 > is not? Get your head on straight! > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Nicholas Geti > Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2010 1:50 AM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Welcome to Deemocracy > > Where in the world did you get the 50,000 number? That is the approximate > number killed in traffic accidents not from guns. Get you head on > straight. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "geoff" <[email protected]> > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 12:19 AM > Subject: RE: [OT] Welcome to Deemocracy > > >> Credibility doesn't exactly OOZE out of a pro-gun site like yours. We had >> this debate last year and YOU produced stats that showed almost 50,000 >> died >> from guns in that year. Find a government agency that records raw data >> and >> not spin-modified data and you will find the real answer. You would ahve >> to >> be extremely naive to believe only 642 died from guns in the USA in a >> year. >> I doubt even madagain would believe that. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf >> Of Pete Theisen >> Sent: Tuesday, 23 March 2010 2:32 PM >> To: ProFox Email List >> Subject: Re: [OT] Welcome to Deemocracy >> >> geoff wrote: >>> You're not seriously going to suggest that 642 people died from guns in >> the >>> USA in a whole year right? Even your own statistics don't support that. >>> Or >>> was that just ONE WEEK (and a good week at that!) >> >> Hi Geoff, >> >> Yes, the whole year, I think 2008 - the latest available. Follow the >> link. >>> >>> geoff wrote: >>>> 1/15 the population. <100 killed by guns as opposed to 50,000 >>> >>> Hi Geoff, >>> >>> 50,000? Indeed! Spin figures. Try 642. Your rate is higher than ours. >>> >>> http://www.tincher.to/deaths.htm >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Pete >> http://pete-theisen.com/ >> http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ >> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c9002637f1e949dca5ccf36312f5e...@dual ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
