On 03/27/2010 10:29 AM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> Leland, if memory serves me correct, you are a cpa which means you
> understand numbers.
>    

Yes, I'm a CPA.

> I would like for you to go to wikipedia and get a list of the top 25
> countries by GDP.
> Then go to wikipedia and get the population for these 25 countries.
>
> Then divide their GDP by their population and you will get a purchasing
> power per person.
>
> Now you are familiar with the concept of trickle down.
> As you will see by your numbers, America has the greatest number and
> china and india are way down on the totem pole
>
> Now if you take a look at the American GDP, you will find that 70% of it
> is purchased by the American consumer, not by the government, nor by
> business and if you will look at an article I wrote about the GDP awhile
> back at kaaw you will find that the total exports of America only
> amounts to 11% of the GDP here in America.
>
> In other words, the customers for our American corporations are Americans.
>
> Now I'm going to ask you and everybody else to forget about the
> brainwashing in your brain that only people with college degrees can think.
> you have a brain.
> Use it and THINK.
>
> So tell me, if the corporations in America are putting Americans out of
> work totally, or in my case reducing their income to 1/3rd of what they
> used to make, what do you think this will do to the economy of the world?
>    

The economy today is global, so we need to think of it in those term, 
rather than thinking in terms of a USA economy only.  I haven't run the 
numbers, but I suspect skilled labor in the USA is paid on average 3 or 
4 time the world average per hour.  This mean American companies have to 
be very efficient in using technology and mass production to be able to 
compete internationally, and in certain instances, companies in the USA 
must hire the lowest per hour labor available, which means hiring labor 
outside the USA.

If USA labor demand too high an hourly wage, it might bankrupt a company 
and put everybody out of work, or motivate companies to begin moving 
plant and equipment to other countries that have more favorable hourly 
labor rates.  Then the USA loses not only the jobs, but the capital 
investment in land, plant, and equipmkent moves oversea as well.  
Certainly this situation would not be in the best interest of USA labor.

My fear is the Obama Administration might go to far in protectionism.


> Bob is wrong on one thing as it is not the president, it is the
> corporations, made up of people like you and me that are doing this to
> ourselves..
>
> Use your brain and THINK.
>    

Your view of economic is somewhat simplistic and narrow, (eg sending job 
overseas is the source of all economic evil).  You need to take a more 
holistic view.

Regards,

LelandJ

> On 3/27/2010 11:51 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>    
>> On 03/26/2010 08:25 PM, Publius Maximus wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> CBO report: Debt will rise to 90% of GDP:
>>>
>>> http://bit.ly/ceUMSV
>>>
>>> then
>>>
>>> Supply fears start to hit Treasuries
>>>
>>> http://bit.ly/beCex4
>>>
>>> - - -
>>>
>>> I was going to say, jokingly, that Obama proves the proverb which says
>>> "Once you go black, you don't go back," but actually, in his case that
>>> is only half true. The whole truth about him is that "Once you go Red,
>>> you're economy will be dead."
>>>
>>> Seriously, how do Obama's deficit spending policies, which in the
>>> best-case scenario make Bush's absolute worst budget look like a case
>>> study in fiscal Scroogery, make any sense whatsoever, outside of a
>>> determined goal of destroying the US economic and political system?
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Contrary to your claim that President Obama is destroying the USA
>> economy, he should be praised for taking action needed to avoid a great
>> depression, like the one that occurred after the crash of the 1930s.  As
>> shaky as the economy is in the USA, things are worse in eastern Europe,
>> including Britain, and countries that have standardized on the euro
>> can't deficit spend of reduce their debt by inflating their currency,
>> (eg Greece which is bankrupt), so all and all, President Obama did an
>> outstanding job of bringing the USA economy back towards normal from a
>> world wide economic crisis.  Only Asian countries, couturiers rich in
>> natural resources like oil and gas, and China seem to have avoided the
>> financial meltdown and ensuring worst economic challenges since the
>> great depression.
>>
>>
>>      
>>> And I won't even mention the vast expansion of IRS power under
>>> ObamaCare to rummage through private bank accounts, or force private
>>> citizens under penalty of prison to purchase a product they may/may
>>> not want or need. For that matter, I won't even mention that he
>>> continues with the same rendition, Patriot Act, and Guantanamo
>>> policies that had certain folks of sensitive disposition in this
>>> august forum in full-throated conspiratorial dictatorship alert, not
>>> too many moons ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Your showing your paranoid side, Bob.  You really should see someone
>> about meds.  LOL
>>
>>
>>      
>>> How in the world can anyone, on any basis, justify what Obama is doing?
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> - Publius
>>
>>      
>>>
>>>        
>>      
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