On 04/08/2010 01:59 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > >> I can understand you're condemning those who have an abortion, but >> that's not the issue. The issue is whether the choice should be in the >> hands of a cold, inflexible, inanimate state per written law, or the >> choice should be in the hands of a potential mother with support coming >> form government, church, parents, friends, and others who can advise and >> educate. >> >> BTW, you need to work harder on your becoming more forgiving. LOL >> >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> >> On 04/08/2010 12:01 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: >> >> >>> Sure, the Christians who support abortion, they're real Christians. >>> >>> --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Leland F. Jackson, CPA<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA<[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [OT] You picked a fine time to lead us... >>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> >>>> Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 12:11 PM >>>> Sure, there are plenty of open >>>> minded, God loving, Christians "LEFT" in >>>> America, but two many close minded American can't see it; >>>> because, they >>>> feel they are "Right" about everything. LOL >>>> >>>> > Hummm..... let's see, a lot to say here. > > i) Dimwit here implies left=abortion. With that realistic conception of > politics one understands where the rest of his stupid political remarks > come from. >
Yes, Michael seemed to be implying the "LEFT" supports abortion, which is not only not true, but fails to speak to the real issue of who has the choice; state or individual person. > ii) God grants us free will, that means that you are ALLOWED BY GOD to > sin, kill babies or whatever. He'll send you to hell later (unless you > repent), but you are allowed to do it (of course this stems from god's > omnipotence, you can do nothing without god knowing and allowing). There are a few matters you didn't touch on like at what point does life begin during a pregnacy, what circumstance, like rape, incess, or danger to life of mother, create exceptions to the rules, and where do we go to find authoritative evidence where God has specifically spoken to the issue of abortion, and whether God forbids it or no. > So > obviously god has nothing to say about how the state should punish or > not abortion, nothing to do with religion, all to do with what is good > for society as a whole. > The issue of abortion seems to revolve around religion, regardless of whether the individual or state makes the choice, (eg free choice or not free choice). Abortion could be a societal issue as well, if, for example, abortion were needed to control population growth, or if societal efforts to control the crime of abortion, including housing the guilty parties in a penal system, became to complex and expensive. Regards, LelandJ > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
