geoff wrote: > DOnt make the quaintly naive assumption that NATO is there solely to protect > Europe. Americans are quite happy to fight wars as long as it is not on their > soil or even close. So, fearing soviet expansionism they took up residence in > Europe figuring that if a fight breaks out it can be in someone elses > backyard. The other theory is that allowing USSR to take over Europe only > makes them closeR to USA and better resourced. Again, not exactly an > altruistic policy. I understand it and I respect it - as does Europe. But I > am not that naive to believe that the USA's first priority is the protection > of the world - or even its 2nd or 3rd priority. I work with the world as it > actually IS, not the way you so naively view it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Michael Madigan > Sent: Saturday, 10 April 2010 2:18 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] End of Europe's free ride? > > Who's going to protect Europe when we can no longer afford to? Who's going > to fund the UN when we no longer can afford to? Who's going to fund NATO > when we can no longer afford to? Who's going to deliver aid after natural > disasters when we can no longer afford to? > > Pull the troops from Europe and let them defend themselves. >
With morons, the easiest way out if data. http://www.betterworldcampaign.org/issues/funding/us-funding-for-the-un-an-overview.html """United States debt to the United Nations, in both the regular and peacekeeping budgets, exceeded $1.5 billion at the start of 2009. By far, the largest amount of debt is for peacekeeping, which is more than $1.3 billion. These arrears make the United States the largest debtor to the United Nations and threaten its ability to leverage the international community toward achieving key U.S. national security priorities""" So it would seem that not only US is indebted to UN, but also that they use UN to "leverage the international community toward achieving key U.S. national security priorities". Hardly as nice as you portray you are. >From the same site "Currently, the U.S. is assessed 22% of the UN regular budget and 26% for UN peacekeeping operations.", so let's look for the UN funding. Wikipedia is our friend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations * United States <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States>* 22.00% * Japan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan>* 16.624% * Germany <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany>* 8.577% * United Kingdom <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom>* 6.642% * France <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France>* 6.301% * Italy <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy>* 5.079% * Canada <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada>* 2.977% * Spain <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain>* 2.968% * China <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China>* 2.667% * Mexico <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico>* 2.257% *Other member states* 23.908% If we add up Germany+UK+France+Spain we come up with a surprising 29.567% European funding. So more bullshit falls apart when confronted to real data. So PLEASE pull out of the whole world and leave us alone, we are just fine thank you. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) multipart/related text/html image/png image/png image/png image/png image/png image/png image/png image/png image/png --- _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
