Thanks for proving my point. --- On Sat, 4/10/10, Adam Buckland <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Adam Buckland <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [OT] End of Europe's free ride? > To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 7:05 AM > NATO Budget by nations... > > Country Civil Budget > Military Budget > Security & Investment > Programme > Belgium 4 300 000 > (2.7%) 25 500 000 (3.3%) > 20 800 000 (4.5%) > Canada 8 800 000 (5.6%) > 56 400 000 (6.5%) > 18 400 000 (3.9%) > Denmark 2 500 000 > (2.5%) 15 100 000 (1.9%) > 16 800 000 (3.6%) > France 25 900 000 (16.5%) > 33 300 000 (6.1%) 18 400 000 > (3.9%) > Germany 24 500 000 > (15.6%) 160 800 000 (18.0%) > 115 600 000 (24.8%) > Greece 600 000 > (0.4%) 3 800 000 (0.4%) > 4 800 000 (1.0%) > Iceland 100 000 > (0.1%) 300 000 (0.1%) > 0 > (0.0%) > Italy 9 100 000 (5.8%) > 53 500 000 (6.9%) > 38 400 000 (8.2%) > Luxembourg 100 000 > (0.1%) 700 000 (0.1%) > 800 000 (0.2%) > Netherlands 4 300 000 (2.7%) > 26 200 000 (3.3%) > 23 600 000 (5.1%) > Norway 1 700 000 (1.1%) > 10 500 000 (1.3%) > 14 000 000 (3.0%) > Portugal 1 000 000 > (0.6%) 5 600 000 (0.7%) > 1 600 000 (0.3%) > Spain 5 500 000 (3.5%) > 5 300 000 (1.0%) 2 > 400 000 (0.5%) > Turkey 2 500 000 (1.6%) > 13 700 000 (1.9%) > 6 000 000 (1.3%) > UK 29 600 000 > (18.8%) 111 300 000 > (20.4%) 52 800 000 (11.3%) > US 36 523 000 > (23.3%) 284 500 000 (28.0%) > 132 000 000 (28.3%) > TOTAL 157 023 0001 > 806 500 000 > 466 400 000 > GRAND TOTAL 1 429 923 000 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Michael Madigan > Sent: 10 April 2010 08:49 > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: RE: [OT] End of Europe's free ride? > > How about Europe pay it's fair share? > > --- On Sat, 4/10/10, geoff <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: geoff <[email protected]> > > Subject: RE: [OT] End of Europe's free ride? > > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > > Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 3:42 AM > > DOnt make the quaintly naive > > assumption that NATO is there solely to protect > Europe. > > Americans are quite happy to fight wars as long as it > is not > > on their soil or even close. So, fearing soviet > expansionism > > they took up residence in Europe figuring that if a > fight > > breaks out it can be in someone elses backyard. The > other > > theory is that allowing USSR to take over Europe only > makes > > them closeR to USA and better resourced. Again, not > exactly > > an altruistic policy. I understand it and I respect it > - as > > does Europe. But I am not that naive to believe that > the > > USA's first priority is the protection of the world - > or > > even its 2nd or 3rd priority. I work with the world as > it > > actually IS, not the way you so naively view it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of Michael Madigan > > Sent: Saturday, 10 April 2010 2:18 PM > > To: ProFox Email List > > Subject: Re: [OT] End of Europe's free ride? > > > > Who's going to protect Europe when we can no longer > afford > > to? Who's going to fund the UN when we no longer > can > > afford to? Who's going to fund NATO when we can no > > longer afford to? Who's going to deliver aid after > > natural disasters when we can no longer afford to? > > > > Pull the troops from Europe and let them defend > > themselves. > > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, Pete Theisen <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > From: Pete Theisen <[email protected]> > > > Subject: [OT] End of Europe's free ride? > > > To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> > > > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > Hi Everybody, > > > > > > http://article.nationalreview.com/430816/if-we-europeanize-europe-is-in-trouble/jonah-goldberg > > > > > > (exerpt) > > > > > > To be fair, liberals insist conservatives are > wrong > > to > > > think that > > > Europeanizing America will necessarily come at > any > > > significant cost. New > > > York Times columnist and Princeton economist > Paul > > Krugman > > > says that, in > > > exchange for only a tiny bit less growth, > Europeans > > buy a > > > whole lot of > > > security and comfort. Economists such as > Stanford’s > > > Michael Boskin say > > > Europeans have a standard of living about 30 > percent > > lower > > > than ours and > > > are stagnating. Others note that the structural > > > unemployment rate in > > > Europe, particularly for young people (it’s > over 20 > > > percent in many > > > countries), is socially devastating. > > > > > > Obviously, I’m in the conservative camp. But I > think > > the > > > debate misses > > > something. We can’t become Europe unless > someone > > else is > > > willing to > > > become America. > > > > > > Look at it this way. My seven-year-old daughter > has a > > great > > > lifestyle. > > > She has all of her clothes and food bought for > her. > > She > > > goes on great > > > vacations. She has plenty of leisure time. A day > > doesn’t > > > go by where I > > > don’t look at her and feel envious of how good > > she’s > > > got it compared to > > > me. But here’s the problem: If I decide to live > like > > her, > > > who’s going to > > > take my place? > > > > > > Europe is a free-rider. It can only afford to be > > Europe > > > because we can > > > afford to be America. > > > > > > The most obvious and most cited illustration of > this > > fact > > > is national > > > defense. Europe’s defense budgets have been > > miniscule > > > because Europeans > > > can count on Uncle Sam to protect them. > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > > > > Pete > > > http://pete-theisen.com/ > > > http://elect-pete-theisen.com[excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
