I don't have either. My ethics and morals are not necessarily yours or anyone else's. Attempting to legislate either is not the answer either.
Now if a women considering an abortion asks for my opinion on the matter, well then I am free to dispense my ethics, morals and anything else that I want to toss into the pot as well. ::michael Michael Madigan wrote: > Of course you have a right, a right and an obligation. Ethics and morals are > the only thing separating us from the savages. > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Michael Oke, II <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Michael Oke, II <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OT] Florida Left licking abortion wound >> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> >> Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 3:23 PM >> In your opinion that is what >> endorsing abortion results in. That is >> meaningless in the broader scope, but I think that you know >> that even if >> you won't publicly admit it. >> >> While I believe that there is justification for abortion >> only in a very >> narrow band or reasoning, that doesn't mean that I have any >> right to >> impose that belief on any other person, unless said person >> is legally a >> ward of mine. Doesn't mean that I won't engage in an >> enlightened >> discussion of my position versus another's but that is >> neither here nor >> there either. >> >> ::michael >> >> >> Michael Madigan wrote: >>> It does matter, because any society that endorses it >> has to live with the consequences of cheapening life. >> >>> Limiting abortions can only be a good thing. >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Oke, II <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>> From: Michael Oke, II <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Florida Left licking abortion >> wound >>>> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 4:47 PM >>>> Does it matter what they have been >>>> told? I think not. They have made a >>>> decision, a legal one at that, and they will have >> to deal >>>> with the >>>> repercussions, if in fact there are any. >>>> >>>> ::michael >>>> >>>> Michael Madigan wrote: >>>>> These women have all been told, "it's only a >> clump of >>>> cells". When they see the little feet and >> little >>>> hands, then they'll know they're killing a real >> live baby. >>>>> Sure, for some evil women it won't change >> their mind, >>>> but most will think long and hard. >>>>> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Oke, II <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> From: Michael Oke, II <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Florida Left licking >> abortion >>>> wound >>>>>> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 1:46 PM >>>>>> Your tangential rant notwithstanding, >>>>>> it still makes no sense to me. >>>>>> Yes I understand the theory that, if you >> make a >>>> woman look >>>>>> at an >>>>>> ultra-sound image of their unborn child, >> that will >>>> change >>>>>> their mind. >>>>>> Having children of my own, I find that to >> be >>>> bogus. >>>>>> The child in a >>>>>> mother's womb is a far more compelling >> argument, >>>> for those >>>>>> so inclined >>>>>> to change their minds. >>>>>> >>>>>> If a woman wants an abortion, and it is >> legal in >>>> the state >>>>>> that she >>>>>> resides in, then she should be allowed to >> get an >>>> abortion >>>>>> without any >>>>>> meddling and, IMNSHO, this law amounts to >> nothing >>>> more than >>>>>> meddling. >>>>>> >>>>>> That said, except in a very narrow band >> of >>>> exceptions, I do >>>>>> not >>>>>> personally believe in abortion and, guess >> what, >>>> that is my >>>>>> right. >>>>>> >>>>>> ::michael >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pete Theisen wrote: >>>>>>> Michael Oke, II wrote: >>>>>>>> The law makes zero sense to me and >> I'm not >>>> a >>>>>> proponent of abortion for >>>>>>>> birth control. >>>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a result of the women being >> forced to >>>> view an >>>>>> ultrasound of >>>>>>> their baby. A number of them change >> their mind >>>> about >>>>>> the abortion and >>>>>>> subsequently give birth to a child. >> The libs >>>> hate the >>>>>> idea of a baby >>>>>>> getting to be born to a "poor" or >> "inept" or >>>>>> "undeserving" mother, >>>>>>> especially if the baby will be an >> American. >>>>>>> Al Gore, on the other hand, can father >> as many >>>> kids as >>>>>> his SUV can >>>>>>> carry. If he buys a 5-mile-per-gallon >> school >>>> bus, he >>>>>> can fill that as >>>>>>> well. Since guys like Gore tend to >> have few, >>>> and >>>>>> sometimes no, kids, the >>>>>>> theory goes that if you can abort all >> the >>>> "poor" kids, >>>>>> you will achieve >>>>>>> a zero population growth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Except that the whole undeveloped >> world swarms >>>> over >>>>>> your borders, >>>>>>> overwhelms your social institutions >> and pays >>>> you no >>>>>> allegiance. Then >>>>>>> your population soars whether you like >> it or >>>> not. >>>>>>>>> The baby killers suffered >> another >>>> setback in >>>>>> Florida. >>>>>>>>> http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20100428/BREAKING/100429738/0/NEWS?p=1&tc=pg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What's next, fur coats with no >> ink >>>> stains? >>>>>> Meat at the butcher shop? >>>>>>>>> Hunting licenses? Private cars >> (except >>>> limos, >>>>>> of course)? >>>>>>>>> It's enough to make the libs >> move back >>>> east, [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
