Paul,

>> Now that those companies have years invested in .NET development, and the
shops are doing things the .NET way, Microsoft no longer has any business
interest in investing in the DLR, since those companies are no longer
considering other development environments. Those that are in .NET are
basically committed to .NET; those that are elsewhere are basically
committed to their particular environments. There is no
*marketing* reason anymore to keep investing in the DLR.<<

I was originally thinking developers can move to one of the other
implementations of Ruby or Python, but after seeing some code at DevLink I
see it has too many calls to the .NET Framework that probably won't port
cleanly. 

I also thought people might see the abandonment as a kick in the teeth and
scramble to figure out a way to move to another platform, but if you look at
the situation as a "first" instead of the bigger picture trend, you might
forgive and move on like many in the Fox Community have. Minimally though,
people should see Microsoft as notoriously bailing on 1.0 revs over the last
5 years. Years ago we figured out that Microsoft did not get it right until
version 3.0, but now you question any commitment they have until they are on
version 3.0, and even that might be on unstable ground.

One of the interesting notes at DevLink during the keynote, Tim Huckaby
(former FoxPro developer and a current Microsoft MVP and Regional Director)
questioned how long .NET will even be around now that it is 10 years old.
This is something I have been asking for the last couple of years. The grind
just keeps on going.


Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Paul McNett
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 01:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft not so committed to dynamic languages anymore?

On 8/9/10 7:30 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:
>       The market for the DLR, OTOH, was growing, thanks in no small part
to Microsoft's active push to attract developers to it. Their decision to
abandon their DLR development was certainly not driven by a dying market
that developers were abandoning, as is the case with Kodak's film market.
Instead, it seems much more like the abandonment of the Visual FoxPro
market: lots of enthusiastic developers that they felt were now "caught",
and the desire to move them into higher-profit, more restrictively-licensed
tools.

They used the DLR to suck in engineers working inside companies that would
otherwise 
have successfully switched their shops away from .NET completely.

Now that those companies have years invested in .NET development, and the
shops are 
doing things the .NET way, Microsoft no longer has any business interest in
investing 
in the DLR, since those companies are no longer considering other
development 
environments. Those that are in .NET are basically committed to .NET; those
that are 
elsewhere are basically committed to their particular environments. There is
no 
*marketing* reason anymore to keep investing in the DLR.

IOW, as Ed said, it is all about marketing. Individual Microsoft employees
were just 
doing their job, but as a company they had this story arc planned out all
along.

You can call it "just doing business". I call it evil.

Paul

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