Yes, it's personal responsibility and personal choices.   I live in a tiny 
house, I drive an old car, my girlfriend drives an old car, we didn't go on 
vacation this year, we sold some stuff I didn't want to sell but I had to.  
Personal responsibility and choices.  



--- On Thu, 11/11/10, geoff <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: geoff <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill
> To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 5:20 PM
> Why don't you tell pete about his
> lack of personal responsibility then? He
> isn't getting the health care he needs. 
> 
> What amazes me is that you claim to be a Christian yet your
> compassion for
> others is way way below the most ardent atheist on this
> list. In fact I
> would call you compassion-less.
> 
> When we have already had one member on this list DIE
> because she couldn't
> afford the outrageous prices of medication in USA can you
> really say it was
> a 'personal responsibility' issue?
> 
> Geoff Flight
> General Manager
> 
> Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 8:45 AM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill
> 
> I'm sorry, I guess personal responsibility isn't one of
> your virtues.  
> 
> --- On Thu, 11/11/10, geoff <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: geoff <[email protected]>
> > Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health
> Bill
> > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 5:14 PM
> > The question is breathtaking in the
> > way it indicates complete disregard for
> > others.
> > I expect little more from madagain
> > 
> > Geoff Flight
> > General Manager
> > 
> > Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf
> > Of Pete Theisen
> > Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 8:29 AM
> > To: ProFox Email List
> > Subject: Re: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health
> Bill
> > 
> > Michael Madigan wrote:
> > > Why do people have kids if they can't afford
> them?
> > 
> > Hi Michael,
> > 
> > The poor value children and family - and they believe
> in
> > the idea of 
> > immortal souls. They are already starving so one more
> > starving person is 
> > actually no change to them. They just throw another
> handful
> > of beans and 
> > another handful of rice into the pot, with some more
> water.
> > They already 
> > have the clothes that the older one grew out of.
> > 
> > Relief benefits are per person, not per couple. So
> another
> > child will 
> > increase the benefit. If it did not, the poor will
> still
> > have more 
> > children, it never occurs to them not to. "Birth
> Control"
> > is a middle 
> > and upper class habit.
> > 
> > >>> They can pay Social Security without
> getting
> > free
> > >> health care. 
> > 
> > >> True, but more will survive to adulthood if
> they
> > get health
> > >> care. They 
> > >> certainly won't be able to get it unless it
> is
> > free - they
> > >> are paid next 
> > >> to nothing.
> > >>
> > >>>>> And why should a family have a
> litter
> > of kids
> > >> with
> > >>>> free health care? 
> > >>>> Because they are Catholic? Never mind
> that
> > YOUR
> > >> Social
> > >>>> Security is based 
> > >>>> on the taxes levied on the next
> > generation's
> > >> productivity.
> > >>>> Don't say you 
> > >>>> won't need Social Security. Become
> > disabled in a
> > >> down
> > >>>> market and you 
> > >>>> WILL need Social Security.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> Yeah. Even the Bible has
> nothing
> > to
> > >>>>>> say about health care being
> a
> > basic 
> > >>>>>> right. Actually it doesn't
> say
> > anything
> > >> about
> > >>>> wealth being
> > >>>>>> a basic right 
> > >>>>>> either. It just says the
> wealthy
> > should
> > >> help the
> > >>>> poor; not
> > >>>>>> to bring them up 
> > >> -- 
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Pete
> > >> http://pete-theisen.com/
> > >> http://elect-pete-theisen.com/
> > >>
> [excessive quoting removed by server]
> 
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