The climate cannot be induced to stop changing by making Al Gore's carbon credit company profitable. Carbon credits operate much like the pre-Reformation Catholic indulgences, only they are less effective.
Man's contribution to the process is probably real but not legislatively controllable or even scientifically understood. The scientists of East Anglia have demonstrated that it's a very political process and egos, agendas and budgets are on the line in the public so-called debate. If mankind is the problem the only solution is to reduce the number of people. I suggest the ones who are most concerned with CO2 emissions being the main culprit should hold their breath for 5 minutes in protest. (Except for Nick, I like him despite his wrong-headedness on this issue.) That will make a HUGE contribution to saving the planet -- far more than handing our wallets over to government bureaucrats and trusting them with our destinies. So my position is: 1. Yes the climate is changing. There has never been a time when it wasn't changing, and the insistence on this new name from erstwhile AGW true believers is a marketing gimmick along the lines of "Heads I win, tails you lose." Sooner than not, we're due for an Ice Age. 2. Maybe man has contributed a statistically significant something to the process in the last 100 years, but nature has a way of regulating these things and in any case you can't control the process legislatively without brutal totalitarian measures; 3. The sun probably has something to do with warming the planet. :/ Small fluctuations in its output can have enormous consequences for life on earth, far more than some statistically inconsequential gas (CO2) relative to other greenhouse gases (like, oh, say water vapor, esp. considering the earth is 75% covered with water). 4. The climate conference in Cancun opening with prayers to the jaguar moon goddess of reason and basket weaving only adds to the sense that there is something besides "hard science" behind the movement. What's up with that? - Publius On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Nicholas Geti <[email protected]> wrote: > Give it up, Dan. These two guys choose to ignore any facts contrary to their > belief that the planet is warming. This article is no joke to them. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Covill" <[email protected]> > To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:28 PM > Subject: Re: [OT] Global Warming hits the UK > > >> On 12/17/2010 5:51 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339149/Big-freeze-Coldest-December-100-years-brings-travel-chaos-holiday-rush-begins.html >>> >> I know you intend the Subject name as a joke, but the real joke is that >> you are correct - the extreme weather events are indeed a result of >> global warming. The change in average temperature perturbs the >> atmospheric flows and causes new weather patterns, mostly of the kind >> we'd rather not have. >> >> Dan Covill >> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

