On 28/12/2010 11:33 a.m., Nicholas Geti wrote: > Just goes to show that for every criticism of the U.S. there are just as > many that could be made about any other country.
But of course. I agree completely. A couple of points though. - US being stupid is more harmful than Argentina being stupid. - Argentina does not believe in a "manifest destiny". - Argentina does not claim to be an example of liberty and democracy. - Argentina does not want to be the world's police. - Argentine people don't think they are the bellybutton of the world. I guess the bottom line is that I can't stand hypocrites, and US is one of the worst. > So what else is new? As > always, the people elected their government now they have to live with it. Absolutely. > If there are thugs trying to bring down society, then the society should > fight back. In a free society like the U.S. we are rapidly taking back our > government from the socialists. Hmmm.... you've never had socialists in govt. I doubt you'd know what a socialist is. And if you read carefully what I wrote you'll see that both right and left politicians are at fault. Nothing to do with socialism or capitalism. BTW, did you notice how often you say "free society" referring to your country? As if most of the other countries were not. FYI I perceive that my country, in spite of it's many faults, is freer than yours. We don't have a patriot's act (though I admit we have the so called "super powers" which go against the powers of congress), people don't get abused in airports, we don't have prisons destined to held prisoners without trial or legal help, we don't imprison and mistreat whistle blowers like the wikileaks bloke, we don't burn books we don't like. Some time ago a policeman stopped me in a control post and after asking for license and car's papers, asked where was I coming from. I told him to mind his own business, that he had no right to ask me where I was coming or going to, that it was unconstitutional. He backed up and apologized saying it was in the forms he had been ordered to fill. I told him I didn't mind what a paper pusher had written in his forms and that I would not answer anything unless he would tell me he needed the info to stop a crime and he told me exactly what crime he was stopping. He gave me back my papers and I went my way. Other time I was taking photographs in BA, and there comes this black glassed suit that tells me I could not take pictures of a building as it was the chancellery building. I said this was public street and that I had all the right to do it. He identified as a police officer and said that if I did not desist he'd have to ask for id, I said ok here's my ID and he put my data in a book. When he say I was not worried he smiled and said "understand, it's my job, I've been ordered to do it", I said " ok, but you understand that as a citizen, it is my job to stand for my rights", and then kept taking pictures. I doubt you'd have that much freedom in your "free society". > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ricardo Aráoz"<[email protected]> > To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:10 AM > Subject: Re: [OT] This one is for our South American cheerleaders > > > On 27/12/2010 05:47 p.m., Nicholas Geti wrote: >> Squatters in Argentina are upsetting the local population. >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/27/world/americas/27argentina.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=a22 >> > Sorry I didn't come up earlier, didn't have access to internet yesterday. > > It has been going on for a week, and it's a bit more complicated that > what the article explained. It is, though, a perfect example on how and > why politicians have dismembered this country. > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
