i (instantly) gave up on Unity and installed Xubuntu instead. The XFCE
window manager therein is fairly acceptable. i am trying out Sawfish
as a WM. i do think the Linux community has lost its way and needs a
decent WM.

BTW c-a-f7 gets you back to your X window from excursions into c-a-f2,
c-a-f3 ... etc

c-a-t does not give you a terminal in Sawfish ..)

greg
~krsnadas.org

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from:    Alex Giannakopoulos aeg...@blueyonder.co.uk
to:      programm...@jsoftware.com
date:    21 November 2012 08:01
subject:         Re: [Jprogramming] A little UBUNTU help

Sorry, I meant Ctrl-Alt-t  in the above, won't work if you hold the Shift
as well.

I have never found a graphical Ubntu where Ctrl-Alt-t won't give a terminal.

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from:    Alex Giannakopoulos aeg...@blueyonder.co.uk
to:      programm...@jsoftware.com
date:    21 November 2012 07:58
subject:         Re: [Jprogramming] A little UBUNTU help

Ctrl-Alt-T will open the regular terminal on most Ubuntu desktop distros.

As for >=12.04, the less said the better. Everyone wants to morph
their desktop into a mobile nowadays... Sheesh.

With Ubuntus >= 12.04 you can specify a "normal", traditional startup
- instead of the hideous "Unity" - at the login screen. If you *must*
use Unity, then you can still get to all your regular programs. I did
it once, so I know. Forgot how though... LOL You go to Program
Launcher and then choose the "Show All Installed" tab, or something
like that, and they all appear.. in alphabetical order (sigh).

Might be OK on tablets, I suppose, but I can't comment on that. Gnome
3.0 ops in Nautilus are painfully slow. Something wrong there. Other
than that it's OK, more or less, and J701(gtk) works fine.

I don't know if you're using a 64-bit Linux, but I found major
problems on the using J's OpenGL. I'd appreciate it if you let me know
how yours works. 32-bit Ubuntu installations seem OK with OpenGL,
unless running on a 64-bit machine.

Good Luck

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from:    Don Guinn dongu...@gmail.com
to:      programm...@jsoftware.com
date:    20 November 2012 21:31
subject:         Re: [Jprogramming] A little UBUNTU help

Thanks. Worked like a charm.

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On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Michael Dykman <mdyk...@gmail.com> wrote:

In a pinch,  ctl-alt F2, F3... will always give you a tty under most
common Linux distros .  But I know that launcher is in there
somewhere.  My Ubuntu run headless so I can't check.

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from:    Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com
to:      programm...@jsoftware.com
date:    20 November 2012 21:15
subject:         Re: [Jprogramming] A little UBUNTU help

I think if you just start typing "terminal" in the Dash, it should appear

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On 2012-11-20 10:58 PM, "Don Guinn" <dongu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Need a little non-J help. Installed UBUNTU 12.10 and for some
mysterious reason they hid terminal. Can't find it. I need it to
install J and other things using it. Can't get any info from its help.
Anybody know where it is?
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