I guess you can just develop a grid-less gui in j602 using isigarph/gl2 and need not worry j701, it should work with gtkwd. If it doesn't, please let me know.
your dissect is interesing, but I'm afraid I won't have the time to work on it. Пт., 28 дек. 2012, Henry Rich писал(а): > I have no problems with J701, I just haven't tried it. > > I was using richedit to highlight the portion of a sentence being > pointed to. I have now removed the richedit from the form. Then > perhaps it would work on J701? > > Henry Rich > > > On 12/28/2012 8:34 PM, bill lam wrote: > >J7 GTK supports isigraph and gl2 even without gtkwd. For the grid > >addons, gtkwd should already support almost completely. Please > >elaborate your problems with J701. > > > >On a quick glance, I found your dissect uses richedit control which > >is MS Windows specific. Does it also run on J602 linux/mac? > > > >Пт., 28 дек. 2012, Henry Rich писал(а): > >>I have written a grid-based application that displays the execution > >>of a J sentence in a 2-D grid and allows you to poke around and see > >>what happened. I hope that this will speed up the learning curve for > >>new J users. It is a revolutionary way to view J execution. J is > >>one of the > >>few languages where such a display would work, and it might help > >>users overcome the barrier of visualization. > >> > >>The package is debug/dissect, downloaded from Package Manager. It > >>works only for J6, and that is why I am asking for a collaborator. > >>If it just had a better UI, with little boxes and arrows instead of a > >>grid... > >> > >>When you download the package, make sure you update your base > >>library, which has updates needed for dissect. > >> > >>Once you have loaded the package, you can try it on sentences. Here > >>is one from recent Forum traffic: > >> > >> 20 5 0(*`%/"2@(,: (%:@* -.))@((,: , 1"1) % +/@[))10 > >> > >>clear, eh? But maybe you'd like to see it in 2D: > >> > >> ds '20 5 0(*`%/"2@(,: (%:@* -.))@((,: , 1"1) % +/@[))10' > >> > >>You can click on a cell to get more detail, or CTRL-click to get more > >>detail for the cell and all its ancestors. With detail, the shapes > >>are shown, with a slash separating the shape from the frame. When > >>there is a modifier with a frame, you will get a 'selector' - a > >>bright green box where you can enter the indexes of the cell you want > >>to look at. Double-click the selector to edit it, and when you press > >>ENTER the selected operands, and the corresponding result, will be > >>displayed. > >> > >>Individual verbs that have a frame can be inspected by clicking the > >>verb; rank operators can be drilled into by clicking. You will get > >>selectors that you can use to go deeper. > >> > >>If your sentence blew up, ds will show you what was happening just > >>before the explosion. > >> > >> left =. 3 2;5 1 3;4 6 > >> right =. 3 2;4;,4 > >> left +&.> right > >>|length error > >>| left +&.>right > >> > >>Where did it blow up? > >> > >> ds 'left +&.> right' > >> > >>will take you right to the error. > >> > >>This is half-finished, pre-alpha code. I am releasing it because, as > >>indispensable as grid has been for prototyping, I think dissect could > >>be really great if freed from the formatting requirements of grid. > >>If the blocks were placed on the screen in pixel positions rather > >>than grid cells, the layout would be more compact and more stable > >>during inspection. > >> > >>On J6, that would mean managing an isigraph. As I understand it, J7 > >>doesn't have isigraph controls, but it sounds like there are other > >>graphics features that might do the job. (The first step might be to > >>get the grid version working on J7.) So I am asking for someone to > >>step up and write the screen interface for J7. This would involve > >>designing the new look, and then translating my verbs that format the > >>display (basically, I have one verb for each J modifier) and handling > >>clicks. I will be working on finishing the engine. The > >>screen-interface code that I am asking for is a small fraction of the > >>total code for the project. > >> > >>As of now, dissect handles verbs, nouns, and the structural modifiers: > >> > >>@ @: & &: &. &.: " ~ ` hook fork > >> > >>It also treats ] [ [: as flow control, and removes them from the display. > >> > >>Missing are the computational modifiers / ;: ^: etc. I need to > >>handle them one by one: decide the display, decide what selections > >>will be supported, then implement. This is what I will be doing next > >>(after I finish fixing display errors and other bugs). > >> > >>Even in its skeletal form, dissect can make learning J easier. I > >>will be giving it to my students to try next semester. > >> > >>Henry Rich > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- regards, ==================================================== GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
