1) 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'
2) al =: @[ nc <'al' 1 3) I do not want to defend definition deficiencies. I want to mash modifier malignancies. 4) Are you smiling? Sent from my iPad On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:59 AM, "Linda Alvord" <[email protected]> wrote: > Also, If you create an adverb @[ using a conjunction @ and a verb [ it > seems to me that you have violated your rule of no conjunctions. > > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Alvord > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 4:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Writing J > > Here is a simple J version of ic which doesn't use @ or & > > ic =: [: , [: j./&i:/ +. > h=: 13 :',([:(([:i:[)j./[:i:])/+.)y' > ic > [: , [: j./&i:/ +. > h > [: , [: (([: i: [) j./ [: i: ])/ +. > (ic-:h)1j2 > 1 > > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of km > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:25 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Writing J > > Here is an example. Verb ics below is in Simplistic J, verb ic is not. > > ic =: [: , [: j./&i:/ +. NB. has modifier chain > > ics =: [: , [: (i:@[ j./ i:@])/ +. NB. no modifier chain > > (ic -: ics) 1j2 > 1 > ic 1j2 NB. Produce a "complex symmetric interval" > _1j_2 _1j_1 _1 _1j1 _1j2 0j_2 0j_1 0 0j1 0j2 1j_2 1j_1 1 1j1 1j2 > > Kip Murray > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Feb 7, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That name might be less controversial if it were changed to >> "Simplistic > J". >> >> That said, personally I find this definition too ambiguous to reason >> about. Reading a file, for example, requires the use of a conjunction >> that you have disallowed. But it looks to me like you have allowed >> conjunctions that you have disallowed. So this implies, to me, that >> your concept of "use" and mine are different. >> >> Then again, you have said that you "often" write in this style, so >> maybe I should view this not as a constraint on code but something >> closer to a statistical observation. Personally, I often use nouns >> and verbs (for example), and I do indeed write sentences that do not >> contain anything other than nouns and verbs. >> >> It might be worth building a "cost scheme" for evaluating the >> complexity of a J sentence. >> >> For example: >> >> sentenceCost=:verb define >> +/1 0 1 8 16 2{~2+nc;:y >> ) >> sentenceCost '+/1 0 1 8 16 2{~2+nc;:y' >> 11 >> >> A more elaborate version might enumerate individual dictionary tokens >> instead of using 1 for all of them. Another variation might require >> test data and explore properties of the resulting evaluation (for >> example: is the result a noun, if so what rank is it?) >> >> -- >> Raul >> >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:49 PM, km <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I often write in Simple J, defined to be J with no conjunction other >>> than > " Rank. Adverbs, including &.> &> @[ and @] , are permitted. When I > need conjunctions : @. ^: . ;. I leave Simple J. >>> >>> Simple J rules out modifier chains with their left-to-right >>> association, > "long left reach" and "short right reach", and relies on forks and hooks > plus " Rank for composition. I like to have rank for composition out in > the open when it is not infinite. >>> >>> Simple J including its name is controversial! >>> >>> Kip Murray >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - For information about J forums see >>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
