On 18 February 2013 04:11, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> Here, my issue was that you were indicating that the text was invalid.
>  Since you are now expressing no interest in making a consistent,
> valid rephrasing of that text, I will drop it.

I did refer you, more than once, and in more than one way, to what
real functions in real functional programming language are.  I am not
necessarily saying the wikipedia sentence that you quoted is invalid.
It is, however, a summarizing introductory statement that describes
an ideal rather than reality.

> Excellent. Please provide a clear example of this difference.
> Or did you mean that there was a syntactic difference in some
> languages? That is a non-issue, from my  point of view - that's like
> saying 1+1 is different from 2 because we use different characters.

If elephants can be obtained from snakes by means of syntactic sugar,
then yes, closures and currying are the same thing.

> I think that it's relevant since your original post in this thread
> http://jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2013-February/031561.html
> opened by claiming that a page discussing Graham's challenge was
> false.

That the said page discusses Graham's challenge is irrelevant, too,
because I didn't discuss it – my only concern was what that page said
of closures, precisely because that statement was rather general.
And if any meaning at all can be ascribed to the phrase 'claiming
that a page discussing Graham's challenge was false', then this phrase
is blatantly untruthful to what I actually said.

> Well, not so much "editing" text but using additional text

Adding, removing, changing, shuffling – it's all the same editing.
Which, considering the detrimental effect on the original program,
is indistinguishable from erasing and writing anew.  And to consider
this, on the one hand, and a certain property of a programming
language, on the other, 'similar' is sheer nonsense.
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