On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Thomas Costigliola <[email protected]>wrote: By the way, is there a convention on this forum for hiding spoilers in posts?
I guess the broad convention is just to give a warning; I like to say something as: Such a verb v comes in... ,. @: |. @: i. 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 v=. +"_2 0 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Thomas Costigliola <[email protected]>wrote: > By the way, is there a convention on this forum for hiding spoilers in > posts? > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Thomas Costigliola <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Got it now. But I still need some rest to really understand it. > > > > Here is more weirdness: > > > > 1 2 ]@v 1 2 3 > > 2 3 > > 3 4 > > 4 5 > > 1 2 v 1 2 3 > > |length error: v > > | 1 2 v 1 2 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> yes. > >> > >> It's not a special-code trick. v is a verb. ] could be anything, and > >> the same weirdness would result. > >> > >> 1 2 v 2 3 > >> 3 5 > >> 1 2 (v) 2 3 > >> 3 5 > >> 1 2 ]@v 2 3 > >> 3 4 > >> 4 5 > >> 1 2 ]@(v) 2 3 > >> 3 4 > >> 4 5 > >> > >> > >> Henry Rich > >> > >> > >> On 6/7/2013 6:43 PM, Dan Bron wrote: > >> > >>> My question #2 had two clauses with opposite senses (i.e. it was an > >>> either/or question), so an unqualified "no" is an ambiguous response. > Let > >>> me phrase it as a strict yes/no question: > >>> > >>> Does x ]@(v) y necessarily produce the same result as x ]@v y ? > >>> > >>> I'm trying to prune out lines of inquiry which would be unsurprising or > >>> at least mundane. Since adverbs can see their entire verbal argument, > >>> phrases like ]@+/ and ]@(+/) are fundamentally different, even if they > >>> produce the same results when applied to arguments. In short, if my v > is > >>> given access to the ]@ then all sorts of doors are opened (this is > actually > >>> how most special code is implemented) and the puzzle is not so > interesting. > >>> > >>> > >>> If, on the other hand, we're taking about a ]@(v) which differs from > >>> plain (v), that is very interesting; and if the DoJ does in fact > legitimize > >>> it (or at least fail to prohibit it), then it is fascinating! > >>> > >>> -Dan > >>> > >>> Please excuse typos; composed on a handheld device. > >>> > >>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> 1 yes; 2 no; 3 not exactly specified; guess incorrect > >>>> > >>>> Henry Rich > >>>> > >>>> On 6/7/2013 4:36 PM, Dan Bron wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Three questions: > >>>>> > >>>>> #1 Is v necessarily a verb? > >>>>> #2 Does the effect depend upon v being anonymous, or will it > work > >>>>> if v is assigned to a name and/or wrapped in parens? > >>>>> #3 Is the effect indicated, contraindicated, or unspecified by > the > >>>>> Dictionary? > >>>>> > >>>>> -Dan > >>>>> > >>>>> PS: My initial guess is this is almost certainly a bug introduced by > >>>>> some > >>>>> special-code optimization. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: programming-bounces@forums.**jsoftware.com< > [email protected]> > >>>>> [mailto:programming-bounces@**forums.jsoftware.com< > [email protected]>] > >>>>> On Behalf Of Henry Rich > >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 3:14 PM > >>>>> To: Programming forum > >>>>> Subject: [Jprogramming] A puzzle > >>>>> > >>>>> For what sort of v does > >>>>> > >>>>> ]@v > >>>>> > >>>>> give different results than > >>>>> > >>>>> v > >>>>> > >>>>> ? No side effects. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 1 2 v 1 2 > >>>>> 2 4 > >>>>> 1 2 ]@v 1 2 > >>>>> 2 3 > >>>>> 3 4 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Henry Rich > >>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/** > >>>>> forums.htm <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/** > >>>>> forums.htm <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> > >>>>> > >>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** > >>>> ---------- > >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/** > >>>> forums.htm <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> > >>>> > >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** > >>> ---------- > >>> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/**forums.htm<http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** > >> ---------- > >> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/**forums.htm<http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> > >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
