Yes, I'd noticed the discrepancy between Richard's description (0-150) and
the Wikipedia page on Dunbar's number.  Moreover, I doubt that the
distribution is uniform in the range (whether 0-150 or 0- >230).


On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Roger Hui <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I failed to do an example with 1e7 members.  The expected number of
> friends
> > is 75 per the Dunbar requirement.  For n members, the size of s is
> > (75*n),2.  On J64, integers are 8 bytes each, so the total number of
> bytes
> > is 8**/(75*n),2 and for n=1e7 equates to 12 GB.
>
> Note also that the dunbar requirement in this thread is different from
> the dunbar number expressed at the wikipedia link (150 there was the
> average and expected averages were something in the range of 100-230
> (and I'm not going to verify those numbers because (a) my mouse is
> acting up, and (b) the reasoning behind them was just too silly for me
> to make sense of)).
>
> That said, note that we have similarly structured information
> available in social networks (facebook graph, for example, but there
> are others). So hypothetically speaking, we could play with that data
> and see how similar those averages were to the dunbar averages. But,
> to do this, we'd undoubtably need greater than 12GB to represent the
> data.  (I wonder if we have enough interest to put together enough of
> a community to implement J for infrastructures such as hadoop?)
>
> But note also that these toy problems - real problems at that scale
> are probably biological (or pornographic?) in character.  (Genome
> project, was a recent example I noticed.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Raul
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