That is a nice shift!  Gray3 is certainly an improvement over Gray,


   o=. @:

   st=. 7!:2@:] ; 6!:2



   ( xor=. 22 b. ) ( shift=. 33 b. )

22 b. 33 b.



   (  Gray=. #: o (xor <. o -: ) f. )

#:@:(22 b. <.@:-:)

   ( gray3=. #: o (xor _1&shift) f. )

#:@:(22 b. _1&(33 b.))



   (Gray -: gray3) i.524288

1

   10 st'Gray  i.524288'

┌────────┬─────────┐

│25166784│0.0399368│

└────────┴─────────┘

   10 st'gray3 i.524288'

┌────────┬─────────┐

│25166848│0.0194468│

└────────┴─────────┘



According to the jwiki discussion, solution8
http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Puzzles/Gray%20Code#soln8 holds the crown,



   gray8=. [:>[:(({. * #@]) ,@:+ ($ (,: |.)))&.>/ (<0 1) ,~ 2: <@^ ]((($~
*)@- +:@{:) , |.@]) i.@<.&.(2&^.)

   gray8 4

0 1 3 2 6 7 5 4 12 13 15 14 10 11 9 8



One can rewrite grey3 to a compatible form (which turns out to be the
original "Grey" but with the crucial shift instead),



   ( gray11=. (xor _1&shift) o i. o (2&^) f. )

(22 b. _1&(33 b.))@:i.@:(2&^)

   gray11 4

0 1 3 2 6 7 5 4 12 13 15 14 10 11 9 8



So,



   ( gray8 -: gray11 ) 19

1



   100 st'gray8  19'

┌────────┬─────────┐

│13108864│0.0076141│

└────────┴─────────┘

   100 st'gray11 19'

┌────────┬──────────┐

│12583936│0.00616758│

└────────┴──────────┘


The king is dead, long live the king?



On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote:

> Or:
> gray2 =. [: (~: (_1 |.!.0"1 ])) 2&#.^:_1
>
>
> gray3 =: #:@(22 b. _1&(33 b.))
>
>
> Henry Rich
>
>
> On 11/18/2013 5:10 AM, R.E. Boss wrote:
>
>> Replace gray by
>>     gray=. [: -. [: (= (_1 |.!.0"1 ])) 2&#.^:_1
>> to allow large(r) Gray codes.
>>
>> See solution 10 on http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Puzzles/Gray%20Code
>>
>>     ('0.4';'c12.0') (8!:2) ts' Gray i.524288'   NB. 54288=2^19
>> 0.0247  33,556,352
>>
>>     ('0.4';'c12.0') (8!:2) ts' gray i.524288'   NB. 54288=2^19
>> 0.4365 293,615,616
>>
>>     ('0.4';'c12.0') (8!:2) ts' #:([: ({: (({. * #@]) ,@:+ ($ (,: |.)))
>> ((* #) ,@:+ # $ (,: |.))^:({.`(0: , 1:)))  ] (] , 2: ^ (- 2&^))
>> <.@(2&^.)@<:) 19'
>> 0.0182  26,231,168
>>
>>     (gray i.524288)-: #:([: ({: (({. * #@]) ,@:+ ($ (,: |.))) ((* #) ,@:+
>> # $ (,: |.))^:({.`(0: , 1:)))  ] (] , 2: ^ (- 2&^)) <.@(2&^.)@<:) 19
>> 1
>>     (Gray i.524288)-: #:([: ({: (({. * #@]) ,@:+ ($ (,: |.))) ((* #) ,@:+
>> # $ (,: |.))^:({.`(0: , 1:)))  ] (] , 2: ^ (- 2&^)) <.@(2&^.)@<:) 19
>> 1
>>
>>
>> R.E. Boss
>>
>> (Add your info to http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Community/Demographics )
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:programming-
>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jose Mario Quintana
>>> Sent: zondag 17 november 2013 22:28
>>> To: Programming forum
>>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Sets
>>>
>>> "Grey" and gray are related but they take different arguments and produce
>>> different results.  However, we can compare Gray (derived from Grey) and
>>> gray.  Gray is shorter than gray,
>>>
>>>     ( gray=. [: -. [: (= (_1 |.!.0"1 ])) bin f. ) NB. Fixed
>>> [: -. [: (= (_1 |.!.0"1 ])) 2 2 2 2&#:
>>>
>>>     ( Gray=. #: @: (22 b. <.@:-:) )               NB. Fixed
>>> #:@:(22 b. <.@:-:)
>>>
>>> Gray and gray produce the same result for the given argument,
>>>
>>>     (Gray -: gray) i.16
>>> 1
>>>
>>> Gray is more efficient than gray,
>>>
>>>     100 st'gray i.16'
>>> ┌────┬─────────────┐
>>> │2112│4.55809702e_6│
>>> └────┴─────────────┘
>>>     100 st'Gray i.16'
>>> ┌────┬─────────────┐
>>> │1408│3.12123995e_6│
>>> └────┴─────────────┘
>>>
>>> and it is more general,
>>>
>>>     (Gray ; gray) i.32
>>> ┌─────────┬───────┐
>>> │0 0 0 0 0│0 0 0 0│
>>> │0 0 0 0 1│0 0 0 1│
>>> │0 0 0 1 1│0 0 1 1│
>>> │0 0 0 1 0│0 0 1 0│
>>> │0 0 1 1 0│0 1 1 0│
>>> │0 0 1 1 1│0 1 1 1│
>>> │0 0 1 0 1│0 1 0 1│
>>> │0 0 1 0 0│0 1 0 0│
>>> │0 1 1 0 0│1 1 0 0│
>>> │0 1 1 0 1│1 1 0 1│
>>> │0 1 1 1 1│1 1 1 1│
>>> │0 1 1 1 0│1 1 1 0│
>>> │0 1 0 1 0│1 0 1 0│
>>> │0 1 0 1 1│1 0 1 1│
>>> │0 1 0 0 1│1 0 0 1│
>>> │0 1 0 0 0│1 0 0 0│
>>> │1 1 0 0 0│0 0 0 0│
>>> │1 1 0 0 1│0 0 0 1│
>>> │1 1 0 1 1│0 0 1 1│
>>> │1 1 0 1 0│0 0 1 0│
>>> │1 1 1 1 0│0 1 1 0│
>>> │1 1 1 1 1│0 1 1 1│
>>> │1 1 1 0 1│0 1 0 1│
>>> │1 1 1 0 0│0 1 0 0│
>>> │1 0 1 0 0│1 1 0 0│
>>> │1 0 1 0 1│1 1 0 1│
>>> │1 0 1 1 1│1 1 1 1│
>>> │1 0 1 1 0│1 1 1 0│
>>> │1 0 0 1 0│1 0 1 0│
>>> │1 0 0 1 1│1 0 1 1│
>>> │1 0 0 0 1│1 0 0 1│
>>> │1 0 0 0 0│1 0 0 0│
>>> └─────────┴───────┘
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Bo Jacoby <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  This program for graycode may be simpler?
>>>>
>>>>     bin=.2 2 2 2&#:
>>>>     gray=.[:-.[:(=_1|.!.0"1])bin
>>>>     bin i.16
>>>> 0 0 0 0
>>>> 0 0 0 1
>>>> 0 0 1 0
>>>> 0 0 1 1
>>>> 0 1 0 0
>>>> 0 1 0 1
>>>> 0 1 1 0
>>>> 0 1 1 1
>>>> 1 0 0 0
>>>> 1 0 0 1
>>>> 1 0 1 0
>>>> 1 0 1 1
>>>> 1 1 0 0
>>>> 1 1 0 1
>>>> 1 1 1 0
>>>> 1 1 1 1
>>>>     gray i.16
>>>> 0 0 0 0
>>>> 0 0 0 1
>>>> 0 0 1 1
>>>> 0 0 1 0
>>>> 0 1 1 0
>>>> 0 1 1 1
>>>> 0 1 0 1
>>>> 0 1 0 0
>>>> 1 1 0 0
>>>> 1 1 0 1
>>>> 1 1 1 1
>>>> 1 1 1 0
>>>> 1 0 1 0
>>>> 1 0 1 1
>>>> 1 0 0 1
>>>> 1 0 0 0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Den 19:40 søndag den 17. november 2013 skrev Jose Mario Quintana <
>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the assertion and the correction.  I knew it was named after
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> person, hence the upper case G, but I am one of those that reads and
>>>>>
>>>> writes
>>>>
>>>>> phonetically (if you know what I mean) and I could not see (hear) the
>>>>> difference between Gray and grey.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Oh - and it's Gray code, not Grey.  It's named not because you don't
>>>>>>
>>>>> have
>>>>
>>>>> black-to-white transitions on more than one bit at a time; it's named
>>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>> Frank Gray.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Henry Rich
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/17/2013 11:24 AM, Jose Mario Quintana wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  My understanding is that Grey codes encode numbers in such a way
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> that
>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> binary representation of consecutive numbers (including the last and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> first
>>>>
>>>>> couple) in the sequence can be produced, one from the other, by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> flipping
>>>>
>>>>> only one bit.
>>>>>>> For example, the binary representation of a four bit Grey sequence,
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2^4
>>>>
>>>>> numbers, and the flipping bit to produce the next number follows,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      o=. @:
>>>>>>>      ( Grey=. (xor f. <. o -:) o i. o (2&^)) ( xor=. 22 b. )
>>>>>>> (22 b. <.@:-:)@:i.@:(2&^) 22 b.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      (#: ; (2 #: o (xor/\) ]) o (, {.)) o Grey 4
>>>>>>> ┌───────┬───────┐
>>>>>>> │0 0 0 0│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> │0 0 0 1│0 0 1 0│
>>>>>>> │0 0 1 1│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> │0 0 1 0│0 1 0 0│
>>>>>>> │0 1 1 0│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> │0 1 1 1│0 0 1 0│
>>>>>>> │0 1 0 1│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> │0 1 0 0│1 0 0 0│
>>>>>>> │1 1 0 0│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> │1 1 0 1│0 0 1 0│
>>>>>>> │1 1 1 1│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> │1 1 1 0│0 1 0 0│
>>>>>>> │1 0 1 0│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> │1 0 1 1│0 0 1 0│
>>>>>>> │1 0 0 1│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> │1 0 0 0│1 0 0 0│
>>>>>>> └───────┴───────┘
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, flipping as many as three bits are sometimes required for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>
>>>> referred sequence,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      T=. 0 8 12 14 15 13 10 11 9 4 6 7 5 2 3 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      (#: ; (2 #: o (xor/\) ]) o (, {.)) T
>>>>>>> ┌───────┬───────┐
>>>>>>> │0 0 0 0│1 0 0 0│
>>>>>>> │1 0 0 0│0 1 0 0│
>>>>>>> │1 1 0 0│0 0 1 0│
>>>>>>> │1 1 1 0│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> │1 1 1 1│0 0 1 0│
>>>>>>> │1 1 0 1│0 1 1 1│
>>>>>>> │1 0 1 0│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> │1 0 1 1│0 0 1 0│
>>>>>>> │1 0 0 1│1 1 0 1│
>>>>>>> │0 1 0 0│0 0 1 0│
>>>>>>> │0 1 1 0│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> │0 1 1 1│0 0 1 0│
>>>>>>> │0 1 0 1│0 1 1 1│
>>>>>>> │0 0 1 0│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> │0 0 1 1│0 0 1 0│
>>>>>>> │0 0 0 1│0 0 0 1│
>>>>>>> └───────┴───────┘
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I missing something?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM, R.E. Boss <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Actually, it IS a (4D binary reflected) Gray code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> R.E. Boss
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Add your info to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Community/Demographics)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [mailto:programming-
>>>
>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Devon McCormick
>>>>>>>>> Sent: vrijdag 15 november 2013 19:33
>>>>>>>>> To: J-programming forum
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Sets
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These look like Gray codes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2013 10:04 PM, "Raul Miller" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Easy enough to add.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's an interesting progression though:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>      #:/:&> (<@#~ 2 #:@i.@^ #)&.> set 2;'b';1;'a'
>>>>>>>>>> 0 0 0 0
>>>>>>>>>> 1 0 0 0
>>>>>>>>>> 1 1 0 0
>>>>>>>>>> 1 1 1 0
>>>>>>>>>> 1 1 1 1
>>>>>>>>>> 1 1 0 1
>>>>>>>>>> 1 0 1 0
>>>>>>>>>> 1 0 1 1
>>>>>>>>>> 1 0 0 1
>>>>>>>>>> 0 1 0 0
>>>>>>>>>> 0 1 1 0
>>>>>>>>>> 0 1 1 1
>>>>>>>>>> 0 1 0 1
>>>>>>>>>> 0 0 1 0
>>>>>>>>>> 0 0 1 1
>>>>>>>>>> 0 0 0 1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Raul
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:06 PM, km <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Cool; needs a sort.  --Kip
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>        psr=: (<@#~ 2 #:@i.@^ #)&.>  NB. Raul's
>>>>>>>>>>>      psr set 0;1
>>>>>>>>>>> +----------------+
>>>>>>>>>>> |++---+---+-----+|
>>>>>>>>>>> |||+-+|+-+|+-+-+||
>>>>>>>>>>> ||||1|||0|||0|1|||
>>>>>>>>>>> |||+-+|+-+|+-+-+||
>>>>>>>>>>> |++---+---+-----+|
>>>>>>>>>>> +----------------+
>>>>>>>>>>>      ps set 0;1  NB. list inside box is sorted
>>>>>>>>>>> +----------------+
>>>>>>>>>>> |++---+-----+---+|
>>>>>>>>>>> |||+-+|+-+-+|+-+||
>>>>>>>>>>> ||||0|||0|1|||1|||
>>>>>>>>>>> |||+-+|+-+-+|+-+||
>>>>>>>>>>> |++---+-----+---+|
>>>>>>>>>>> +----------------+
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Raul Miller
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Derived from ps at http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Power_set#J
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     ps=: (<@#~ 2 #:@i.@^ #)&.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Raul
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 3:17 PM, km <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is my latest attempt at sets in J.  Would anyone care to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> write
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  verb ps (power set) such that ps y is the set of all subsets of set
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> y?
>>>>
>>>>>    It's called the power set in part because when a set has n elements
>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>> power set has 2^n elements.  --Kip Murray
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>      NB. A set is a box with a sorted list of boxes inside.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     NB. An element is the contents of a box in the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     NB. A -: B tests whether set A is set B.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     set =: [: < [: /:~ ~.  NB. create set from list of boxes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     NB. The list may have duplicates but the set has none.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     EE =: <$0  NB. empty set, same as Ace a:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     eo =: <@[ e. >@] NB. test whether x is an element of y
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     uu =: [: set ,&>  NB. union
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     mm =: [: < -.&> NB. minus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     sd =: mm uu mm~  NB. symmetric difference
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     cp =: uu mm sd  NB. common part (intersection)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ss =: uu -: ]  NB. test whether x is a subset of y
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     (set 1;2;3;3) -: set 3;1;2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ]A =: set 2;'b';1;'a'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +---------+
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |+-+-+-+-+|
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ||1|2|a|b||
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |+-+-+-+-+|
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +---------+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ]B =: set 'b';'a';4;3;'a'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +---------+
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |+-+-+-+-+|
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ||3|4|a|b||
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |+-+-+-+-+|
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +---------+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     A uu B
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +-------------+
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |+-+-+-+-+-+-+|
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ||1|2|3|4|a|b||
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |+-+-+-+-+-+-+|
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +-------------+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     A sd B
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +---------+
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |+-+-+-+-+|
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ||1|2|3|4||
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |+-+-+-+-+|
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +---------+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     A cp B
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +-----+
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |+-+-+|
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ||a|b||
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |+-+-+|
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +-----+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     NB. Below is the set of all subsets of set 0;1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     set EE;(set <0);(set <1);<set 0;1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +------------------------+
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |+--+-----+-------+-----+|
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ||++|+---+|+-----+|+---+||
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ||||||+-+|||+-+-+|||+-+|||
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ||++|||0|||||0|1|||||1||||
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ||  ||+-+|||+-+-+|||+-+|||
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ||  |+---+|+-----+|+---+||
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |+--+-----+-------+-----+|
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +------------------------+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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