Off the top of my head g000i.ijs is one. There are others, when I get some
time I will retry with your suggestion and post the results.


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 8:19 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:

> I didn't test. Which tests failed with gcc 4.8? I guess it is the loop
> vectorize optimization that may break ar.c, you may try disable it with a
> CFLAG switch.
>
> 15.01.2014, в 20:38, Thomas Costigliola <[email protected]> написал(а):
>
> > Hi Bill, did you run the test suite after compiling?  I have been having
> > problems with gcc 4.8. I haven't been able to get a passing libj, I have
> > tried a few distros' gcc with different optimizations. It seems to always
> > be overoptimizing some things. Gcc 4.7 doesn't have the issue.
> >
> > On Jan 14, 2014 10:11 PM, "bill lam" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I get similar result for Fibo that linux needed about 41s and this is
> >> strange.  I then recompiled the libj.so using gcc 4.8 -O3 switch,
> >> and it droped to 14s, a little bit faster than wine's 17s.
> >>
> >> I guess it depends on compiler and optimization level.
> >>
> >> Вт, 14 янв 2014, Ben Gorte - CITG писал(а):
> >>> With pleasure. Here are two examples. The first is from my work (image
> > analysis). It computes the good old Haralick texture on a 5000x5000
> aerial
> > image. The adverb Filter uses ;. to activate TextSub at every 25th pixel
> > (1M times).
> >>>
> >>> ~$ ~/j701/bin/jconsole
> >>>   load '/home/ben/j701-user/temp/pgm.ijs'
> >>>
> >>>   CM =. 4 : '((# /.)~ y) (<"1 ~.y) } (x,x)$0'"0 2
> >>>   Norm =: 3 : 'y%+/,y'
> >>>   Contrast=: 3 : '+/, y * *:(<:#y)%~-/~i.#y'"2
> >>>   Con =: 3 : 'Contrast Norm (+|:) y'"2             NB. for
> > non-normalized non-symmetrical cm
> >>>
> >>>   TextSub =: 4 : 0                NB. texture in a sub-image
> >>> co =. |:,.(_1&}."1 ,: 1&}."1) y
> >>> cm =. x CM co
> >>> Con cm
> >>> )
> >>>
> >>>   im =: <.(%16) * pgmread '/home/ben/data/Danbi/redsub.pgm'
> >>> NB. Filter applies 12&F to 7x7 subimages of <.im%16, at every 5th line
> > and column.
> >>>   6!:2 'conperpix =. <.1000*12 TextSub Filter (5 5,:7 7) <.im%16'
> >>> 87.5534
> >>>
> >>> ~$ wine /media/Windows/Documents\ and\
> > Settings/bgorte/j701/bin/jconsole.exe
> >>> ....
> >>>   6!:2 'conperpix =. <.1000*12 TextSub Filter (5 5,:7 7) <.im%16'
> >>> 67.088
> >>>
> >>> It's a 30% speed difference.
> >>>
> >>> Here's a more drastic example. I guess it spends most of its time doing
> > extended precision things. The Fibo routine is activated recursively just
> > 20 times or so. The result has over 200000 digits.
> >>>
> >>> ~$ ~/j701/bin/jconsole
> >>>   Fibo =: 3 : 0"0    NB. Compute large Fibonacci numbers like Fibo
> > 1000000
> >>> if. y<5 do.              NB. returns (F y-1),F y
> >>>   ((,~<:)y){0 1 1 2 3x
> >>> elseif. 0=2|y do.
> >>>   'b c'=.Fibo -:y
> >>>   a=.c-b
> >>>   d=.c+b
> >>>   p=.b*a+c
> >>>   q=.c*b+d
> >>>   (q-p),q
> >>> elseif. do.
> >>>   'b c'=.Fibo -:>:y
> >>>   a=.c-b
> >>>   d=.c+b
> >>>   p=.b*a+c
> >>>   q=.c*b+d
> >>>   p,q-p
> >>> end.
> >>> )
> >>>      6!:2 'z=.{:Fibo 1000000'
> >>> 41.3298
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ~$ wine /media/Windows/Documents\ and\
> > Settings/bgorte/j701/bin/jconsole.exe
> >>> ....
> >>>       6!:2 'z=.{:Fibo 1000000'
> >>> 15.5417
> >>>
> >>> #":z           NB.
> >>> 208988
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________________
> >>> From: [email protected] [
> > [email protected]] on behalf of Michael Dykman [
> > [email protected]]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 17:02
> >>> To: J Programming
> >>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] On benchmarking results from J programming
> > styles
> >>>
> >>> As the timings that you are reporting are very tiny values, we should
> >>> pause for a moment and consider a basic difference between those OSs.
> >>> Under windows, the finest-grained application timer available tick
> >>> 18/s; on linux that number is 1024/s. I suggest that you try some
> >>> longer-running verbs if you expect a fair comparison.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 6:11 AM, Ben Gorte - CITG
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Speaking about J, performance and Linux, is it true that Windows is
> > significantly faster? Or is there something wrong with my installation?
> > Also when runnning windows J under wine on my linux PC I get a better
> > performance than with native linux J:
> >>>>
> >>>> NB. Native Linux
> >>>>   JVERSION
> >>>> Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25
> >>>> Library: 7.01.087
> >>>> Platform: Linux 32
> >>>> Installer: j701a_linux32.sh
> >>>> InstallPath: /home/ben/j701
> >>>>   time'locs=:nudge"1 locs'
> >>>> 1.43086e_5
> >>>>   time'locs=:pfn"1 locs'
> >>>> 7.41384e_6
> >>>>   time'locs=:(pfn f.)"1 locs'
> >>>> 3.77003e_6
> >>>>   time'locs=:pfns"1 locs'
> >>>> 3.7135e_5
> >>>>
> >>>> NB. wine + Windows J
> >>>> JVERSION
> >>>> Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25
> >>>> Library: 7.01.040
> >>>> Platform: Win 32
> >>>> Installer: j701a_win.exe
> >>>> InstallPath: z:/media/windows/documents and settings/bgorte/j701
> >>>>   time'locs=:nudge"1 locs'
> >>>> 1.09025e_5
> >>>>   time'locs=:pfn"1 locs'
> >>>> 5.56416e_6
> >>>>   time'locs=:(pfn f.)"1 locs'
> >>>> 2.88706e_6
> >>>>   time'locs=:pfns"1 locs'
> >>>> 2.77585e_5
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Ben
> >>>> ________________________________________
> >>>> From: [email protected] [
> > [email protected]] on behalf of Raul Miller [
> > [email protected]]
> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 06:44
> >>>> To: Programming forum
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] On benchmarking results from J
> > programming styles
> >>>>
> >>>> That sounds about right.
> >>>>
> >>>> The big caution I would place on interpreting these results is: "This
> >>>> won't necessarily apply for games implemented in J for Linux, where I
> >>>> intend to rely on the SDL and byte-per-pixel graphics layouts.
> >>>> Nonetheless, I retain the logic here, since it's representative of a
> >>>> real-world design decision which directly influences performance on
> >>>> the slower Kestrel architecture."
> >>>>
> >>>> If J is to perform well when applied in suboptimal fashion we'll need
> >>>> some way of representing the code which strips out a lot of the
> >>>> functionality (type checks, size checks, rank handling, maybe even
> >>>> overflow handling?), at least for the time-critical routines. (As much
> >>>> as possible, hoisting redundant operations out of primitives used in
> >>>> bottleneck loops.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Raul
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:59 PM, William Tanksley, Jr
> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> A friend of mine wrote the following paper describing his attempt to
> >>>>> characterize the differences between a few different styles of
> >>>>> implementing the same code in J a few different ways -- explicit,
> >>>>> implicit, and a few variations. He also baselined against a Forth
> >>>>> implementation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I found his writeup very interesting. What do you think?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://sam-falvo.github.io/2014/01/05/subroutine-performance-in-j/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Wm
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