I see... In fact your question is why monadic ? has rank 0, instead of _ , which would make it like behave more like ?. concerning b. 0 .
We agree that a rank 0 ?. wouldn't be useful: querydot =: (?.)"0 querydot (10#100) 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 querydot"1 (10#100) 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 Is your question (if it is) not the same sort of question as why +, -, * etc. have rank 0? Or: what's wrong with: 11 12 13 +"_ i.3 4 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 21 22 23 24 (I don't kow) Ben ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Ian Clark [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 14:18 To: Programming forum Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] ? and ?. have different ranks It says... > Behaves like monadic/dyadic Roll • > Deal<http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Vocabulary/query>( ?) except ...etc. ...It doesn't. Not with (b.0) On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ben Gorte - CITG <[email protected]>wrote: > Looks quite right what is written there. > > ?."0 (10#100) > 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 > ?. (10#100) > 46 55 79 52 54 39 60 57 60 94 > > illustrates that the random seed is always set to the same value (7^5) > each time ?. is executed. > > Ben > ________________________________________ > From: [email protected] [ > [email protected]] on behalf of Ian Clark [ > [email protected]] > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 14:06 > To: Programming forum > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] ? and ?. have different ranks > > I'm watching what's being said on this thread, prior to rewriting: > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Vocabulary/querydot > Its present wording is wrong. > > To handle the new rank information, it will need rewriting in conventional > format. So I have a genuine reason to know why (? b.0) and (?. b.0) are > different. :-) > > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Brian Schott <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > To my surprise, you are correct, as the following examples suggest. (My > > first reaction was that you were wrong, but that is so rare. ) > > > > ?."+ 3#9 > > 3 3 3 > > ?. 3#9 > > 3 8 8 > > > > > > --- > > (B=) > > > > On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:16 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I guess this is intended, otherwise all numbers generated will be > > identical. > > > > > > 24.01.2014, в 19:06, Ian Clark <[email protected]> написал(а): > > > > > >> ? b.0 > > >> 0 0 0 > > >> ?. b.0 > > >> _ 0 0 > > >> > > >> This puzzles me. Apart from the actual numbers they generate, why > > shouldn't > > >> their behaviour be identical from the user's pov? > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
