Sometimes I wish that UTF-8 were considered a unique character type
different from literal (2) and unicode (131072). Really bad things happen
if you happen to catenate literal containing UTF-8 characters with unicode.
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Björn Helgason <gos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is not much I like in m$word but...
> Pointing at a char and pressing alt+u gives me a number alt+u again gives
> the char again.
>
> The u: exercises in J are a bit confusing.
>
> -
> Björn Helgason
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> On 25.2.2014 18:03, "Don Guinn" <dongu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Searching, counting characters etc. are easier to convert UTF-8 to
> Unicode
> > (wide), doing whatever, then converting back to UTF-8.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Björn Helgason <gos...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > a. and especially i. a. - looking up chars indexes used to be useful.
> > >
> > > It is not as easy anymore.
> > >
> > > The national chars are often not in there with a single number.
> > >
> > > Sometimes two or three.
> > >
> > > Reading files also sometimes with unicode markings.
> > >
> > > -
> > > Björn Helgason
> > > gsm:6985532
> > > skype:gosiminn
> > > On 25.2.2014 14:03, "Don Guinn" <dongu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I tried that a while back. I extended the table for ;: to treat the
> > bytes
> > > > for _128{.a to be treated as letters which made all multi-byte UTF-8
> > > > treated as alphas. Statements were broken into tokens properly. But
> > then
> > > I
> > > > found that the interpreter used the top half of a. internally. I
> > > mentioned
> > > > that in the forum a while back when someone noticed that some
> character
> > > in
> > > > there acted weird. Roger said that could be changed if needed. Might
> be
> > > > easy for Roger to change that but it didn't look so easy to me.
> > > >
> > > > I looked at the tables for Unicode (wide characters) and in the form
> of
> > > > UTF-8 and couldn't see any easy to distinguish the category of a
> > > character.
> > > > Those that one would consider an alpha were mixed in with graphics
> and
> > > > controls. APL characters were not grouped together but scattered all
> > over
> > > > the place.
> > > >
> > > > For trying it out and seeing what happens shouldn't be too difficult
> to
> > > see
> > > > how it would work but there are a lot of questions to answer before
> > > making
> > > > it a production tool.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:11 PM, bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This seems simpler. The first thing to do is build a prototype
> > > > > implementaton,
> > > > > and then we can see what are other problems out there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Пн, 24 фев 2014, Don Guinn писал(а):
> > > > > > A middle ground might be to allow for some Unicode (UTF-8) to
> be
> > > > > > considered letters like a-z,A-Z. Then one could name APL iota to
> > > > > something
> > > > > > like i. . In addition, it would allow non-English languages not
> be
> > > > > > restricted to ASCII characters for names. Greek letters in
> > > mathematics
> > > > > > could be used as names making statements look a little more like
> > > > > > traditional mathematics. It would be simpler to allow all Unicode
> > > > > > characters be considered letters, but that might lend to other
> > > > problems.
> > > > > >
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