Actually, thinking about it, that's just apply acting as a verb.

Presumably to produce a verb it's either using the "wicked power' bug or a
custom hack to the interpreter.

Personally, I have enough problems with J crashing on me and am hoping to
fix such issues, so I stay away from verbs returning non-nouns.

Thanks,

-- 
Raul


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> Note that you quoted this text:
>
>    2 ('+/' apply ,) 3
> 5
>
> ;)
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Raul
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>   '@u'eval
>> @a:
>>
>>   '@u' 1 : ''''' 1 : m'
>> @''
>>
>>
>> You are right about it being fairly easy to shoehorn any dyadic verb into
>> a modad for apply, but there is a simplicity to eval when a large boxed
>> structure made of several variables is the left hand part.
>>
>> > PPS.  For the record: perhaps apply (128!:2) should not produce adverbs
>> or
>> conjunctions (or verbs); but, it can.
>>
>> I won't say I don't believe you, but I don't know how. :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jose Mario Quintana <[email protected]>
>> To: Programming forum <[email protected]>
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:32:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] an improvement to apply and perhaps anon evoke
>>
>> I have used similar tools for related purposes before; nowadays I use the
>> word-from-linear (104!:1) extension.  It is not a secret that I have an
>> aversion to explicit definitions; one reason is that they change the
>> context:
>>
>>    wl=. 104!:1
>>    eval =: 1 : ' a: 1 :  m'
>>
>>    < '@' eval +'/' eval 1 2 3
>> ┌─┐
>> │6│
>> └─┘
>>    < '@' wl   +'/' wl   1 2 3
>> ┌─┐
>> │6│
>> └─┘
>>
>> So far, so good; however,
>>
>>    @u
>> @u
>>    '@u'wl
>> @u
>>    '@u'eval
>> @a:
>>
>> PS.  Apply (128!:2) only can refer to a verb that take a single argument,
>> and J verbs can take only one or two arguments.  I regard both situations
>> as very minor annoyances.  It is not difficult to circumvent this
>> “limitation” of apply (and, of course, J verbs can take virtually several
>> arguments), for example,
>>
>>    2 ('+/' apply ,) 3
>> 5
>>
>> PPS.  For the record: perhaps apply (128!:2) should not produce adverbs or
>> conjunctions (or verbs); but, it can.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected]
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > apply does not work with dyadic verbs, and cannot produce modifiers.
>> >  Consider the following simple looking eval function.
>> >
>> > eval =: 1 : ' a: 1 :  m'
>> >
>> >
>> >   2 '+' eval 1 2 3
>> > 3 4 5
>> >
>> >
>> >   + '/' eval 1 2 3
>> > 6
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >   '+/' eval(+:@) 1 2 3
>> > 12
>> >
>> >
>> >   +:@+'/' eval 1 2 3
>> > 22
>> >
>> >
>> >   +: +'/' eval 1 2 3
>> > 12
>> >
>> >
>> >  (+: '@' eval +)'/' eval 1 2 3
>> >
>> > 22
>> >
>> >   +: '@' eval +'/' eval 1 2 3
>> > 12
>> >
>> >
>> > The last statement is interesting because it seems to alter the normal
>> > conjunction train processing (sometimes in desirable ways)
>> >
>> > instead of just grabbing a single token as v.
>> >
>> > < '@' eval +'/' eval 1 2 3    NB. would be domain error without '@'eval
>> > ┌─┐
>> > │6│
>> > └─┘
>> >
>> >
>> > eval is the key to how my multiline tacit code works:
>> >
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/PascalJasmin/Multiline%20tacit%20expressions%20with%20macros
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