Probably, yes.

And I was sort of provocative by not going with the implied limitations.

But there's can be quite a bit of ambiguity when key issues are
implied, rather than addressed or illustrated.

This is a problem I face myself, quite often: How can I be aware of
important issues which matter to other people, when I am incredibly
focused on my own point of view?

That said:

(1) Erling Hellenäs had already posted some solutions which satisfied
the "one verb" constraint using * as that verb (at the time I made my
42981696"_ post).

(2) Realizing that derived verbs are J verbs is an important lesson
which beginning J programmers often overlook.

You can't really be a good J progammer if you don't understand the
grammar of the language. And it's not that the grammar is hard to
understand - it's extremely simple. But it's so simple that it's also
easy to sometimes get by with false generalizations about its rules.

This leads into the almost inevitable "no that's not what I meant"
sorts of social issues.

So yes, my post was - in a sense - somewhat bratty. But I felt that
the underlying issue was important enough to raise the point and stick
with it at least until someone called me on it.

Thanks,

-- 
Raul

On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Skip Cave <s...@caveconsulting.com> wrote:
> Raul,
>
> I think Linda means J *primitive* verbs.
>
> Skip
>
> Skip Cave
> Cave Consulting LLC
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That was, of course, a j verb.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Raul
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Linda Alvord <lindaalv...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>> > All you are allowed to add are J verbs  without affecting the pattern:
>> >
>> > Linda
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com
>> > [mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Erling
>> > Hellenäs
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 9:42 AM
>> > To: programm...@jsoftware.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] High Speed Train Challenge
>> >
>> >     3(***(***)(***))4 NB. Challenge
>> > 35831808
>> >     3(*****(***)(***))4 NB. Solution
>> > 429981696
>> >     3((***)(***)***)4  NB. Verify against
>> > 429981696
>> >     3([: <. 0.5 + * ^ 8:)4  NB. Other expression with same result
>> > 429981696
>> >     3 (* *^:8 1:) 4 NB. Other expression with same result
>> > 429981696
>> >     3 (***************) 4 NB. Other expression with same result
>> > 429981696
>> >
>> > /Erling
>> >
>> > On 2014-07-19 12:33, Linda Alvord wrote:
>> >> Here is the rule:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>    You may only insert one verb as many times as you wish anywhere in
>> the
>> >> expression to produce the desired result:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>      3(%%%%)4
>> >>
>> >> 3
>> >>
>> >>     3(%**%%*%)4
>> >>
>> >> 16
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Here is the desired result:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     3((***)(***)***)4
>> >>
>> >> 429981696
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Here is the expression you must modify to generate  42981696:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     3(***(***)(***))4
>> >>
>> >> 35831808
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Linda
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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