What were you expecting?

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> On Sep 10, 2014, at 7:16 PM, "Linda Alvord" <lindaalv...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Dan,  after your 4 series, I tried this.  Also odd:
> 
> NB.  Begin here  
>   5#''
> 
>   (5#'')*/i.5
>   ''*/i.5
>   ''
> 
> NB. Note the spacing between lines above
> 
> Linda
> 
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> [mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dan Bron
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:56 AM
> To: programm...@jsoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Replace one item of a list
> 
> Linda wrote:
>>    *i.5
>> 0 1 1 1 1
>>   */"0 i.5
>> 0 1 2 3 4
> 
> Joe wrote:
>> It looks like /"0 yields the right side without evaluating the left side
>> 
>>    asdfasdf/"0 i.5
>> 0 1 2 3 4
>> 
>> I don't totally get it myself
> 
> This boils down to  foo/ scalar_value  .
> 
> Note that because of the "0 (meaning "apply to each scalar value
> individually")
> 
>       asdfasdf/"0 i.5
>    0 1 2 3 4
> 
> is equivalent to
> 
>       (asdfasdf/ 0),(asdfasdf/ 1),(asdfasdf/ 2),(asdfasdf/
> 3),(asdfasdf/ 4)
>    0 1 2 3 4
> 
> In Linda's example, asdfasdf is *, so her example is 
> 
>       (*/ 0),(*/ 1),(*/ 2),(*/ 3),(*/ 4)
>    0 1 2 3 4
> 
> And this is quite different from the other expression she contrasts it
> with, which is 
> 
>       *i.5
>    0 1 1 1 1
> 
> which, because monad * (signum) is a scalar function, is equivalent to:
> 
>       *"0 i.5
>    0 1 1 1 1
> 
> which, after expanding in the same manner as above, is equivalent to:
> 
>      (* 0),(* 1),(* 2),(* 3),(* 4)
>    0 1 1 1 1
> 
> Note the lack of any  /  which is the key issue here.  That is, the
> difference Linda spotted boils down to the difference between these two
> expressions:
> 
>       */ 4
>    4
> 
>       * 4
>    1
> 
> 
> Now, *4 is 1 because 4>0  ; no mystery there.  But why does  */4  produce 
> 4  ?  Well,  */  is product, and
> 
>       */ 4 4 4 4  NB. Product of four 4s is 4^4, 256
>    256
>       */ 4 4 4    NB. Product of three 4s is 4^3, 64
>    64
>       */ 4 4      NB. Product of two 4s is 4^2, 16
>    16
>       */ 4        NB. Product of one 4 is 4^1, 4
>    4
> 
> And in general,  foo/ scalar_value  (or asdfasdf/ scalar_value)  is simply 
> scalar_value  .  Because    foo/ noun  says "insert foo between all _pairs
> of items_ in noun", but when noun is scalar_value, there _are no pairs_,
> so no insertion is done.
> 
> -Dan
> 
> PS:  and, of course, 
> 
>       */ ''        NB. Product of zero "4s"  is 4^0, 1
>    1
> 
> There are no pairs to insert * between here, either, but empty arguments
> gets into identity functions.
> 
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