Hi Brian,

The 30,000 foot view (and I apologize that I don't have time to dive deeper at 
the moment) make me wonder if the turtles are defined in a separate locale than 
the background? It strikes me that it is like the times when I have used 
photoshop and find that what I can see I cannot change because I am on the 
wrong layer. The background sounds as if it is generated from the users machine 
but it uses a global layer to know where the turtles are. If you are using 
locales joining the two levels could be as easy as copath as a way to make some 
of the drawing verbs in the background layer available to your turtles. 

Hope this helps, but it is really a wild guess about your design.

Cheers, bob

On Sep 29, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Brian Schott <[email protected]> wrote:

> Eric,
> 
> I should add, that as I suggested earlier, the axes lines and the
> perspective view (altered by arrow keys) and the background color that are
> all created in your demo12 and all behave like the turtle pen lines and are
> altered only in the users own session. But the turtles are repositioned to
> their respective places in all sessions.
> 
> 
> 
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