"Also what is the definition of af ?"

The wicked verb af is defined in [0]; find the line:

 ( af=. an o fix f.)           NB. Atomizing after fixing (an
alternative to atomic representations)

the wicked verb fix is the verbalized f. also defined previously in [0].

By the way, although it is possible, in principle, to produce an
orthodox tacit version of your explicit adverb r, the process becomes
unbearably tedious; it is still tedious to produce an unorthodox
tailor made version.  However, the unorthodox fixed tacit adverbs
kappa and lambda can produce unorthodox fixed tacit equivalents of
that kind of adverbs in a flash.  That matters a lot to a tacit
fanatic (like me).


On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Jose Mario Quintana <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> The "Proposition`combine`basis`reduce" framework is not mine; it belongs
> to Robert Bernecky and Roger Hui [0]. A pdf format used to be freely
> available; you could still get one at the link that I provided [0] but you
> would have to be a member of the ACM.  Alternatively, a ps format is
> available; try "gerunds and representations ps" in Google.
>
> Yes, default parameters could be very useful and it is something I would
> have to think about but not yet (personally, I have not had the need so
> far).
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 10:09 PM, 'Pascal Jasmin' via Programming <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> thanks for sharing, Pepe
>>
>> lambda is very cool, and beats my attempts at easily composing fully
>> contained multi adverbs.
>>
>> I also find your "Proposition`combine`basis`reduce" framework to
>> recursion interesting, but was unable to find a google reference.  Also
>> what is the definition of af ?
>>
>> From Dan's strand notation,
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2009-July/015565.html
>>
>> a small variation
>>
>> t9 =: s 9:
>>
>> and from
>>
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/PascalJasmin/double%20adverbs%20vs%20conjunctions
>> ,
>>
>> tie =: '`' c2da
>>
>> a semi-tacit (explicit adverb that returns tacit verb) version of your
>> recurse adverb in original[1] and quoted
>>
>> r =: 1 : ' ''`a b c d'' =. m label_. b`(c $:@:d)@.a f.'
>>
>> Alternative syntax is not that bad even if it requires more tokens
>> because seperating the active adverb from the parsing strategy.  Even if it
>> is much more elegant as your adverb when you can combine it with its
>> parser.  But the alternatives:
>>
>>   9: * 1: * <: t9 r
>> 1:`(* $:@:<:)@.*
>>
>>
>>   * 1: * <: tie tie tie r
>> 1:`(* $:@:<:)@.*
>>
>>  While there is a loss in elegance, there is a readability benefit of
>> having the parser(s) explicity mentioned.  A separation of the work adverb
>> and parser also allows you to insert in-between adverbs (such as setting
>> default parameters/verb phrases).
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jose Mario Quintana <[email protected]>
>> To: Programming forum <[email protected]>
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 8:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Can whatever be written tacitly?
>>
>> I wrote:
>> "
>> Dan, if you are reading this ...  I wonder if you wrote a recursive
>> prototype for nest2Box, or if you could write one, which you could share.
>> "
>>
>> Dan, never mind; I found:
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2011-November/025493.html
>> and I should be able to take it from there.
>>
>> I also wrote:
>> "
>> Mu shines when it facilitates writing (tacit) adverbs (and "multiple"
>> tacit
>> adverbs).  That was the reason that prompted me to write the lambda adverb
>> (mu's sibling) in the first place.  I will elaborate on the production of
>> adverbs, via mu, another day.
>> "
>>
>> Today is another day.  This is another try at implementing the adverb
>> (`:4)
>> described in [0].  It has been almost a year since my first one [1].  Let
>> us keep going in high gear well above the speed limit,
>>
>>    JVERSION
>> Installer: j602a_win.exe
>> Engine: j701/2012-12-06/12:20/x
>> Library: 6.02.023
>>
>>    evoke4=. [: v0 v1 v2 v3 'v1`(v2 $:@:v3)@.v0' mu
>>
>>    fact=. evoke4 *`1:`*`<:
>>    fact 5
>> 120
>>
>>    fib=. evoke4 >&1`(i.@>:)`(] , +/@(_2&{.)@])`<:
>>    fib 7
>> 0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13
>>
>> But that does not really implement the adverb `:4 because evoke4 is a
>> wicked verb.  Let us sweep the black magic under the carpet then,
>>
>>    Evoke4=. [: v0 v1 v2 v3 'v1`(v2 $:@:v3)@.v0' mu adv
>>
>>    fact=. *`1:`*`<: Evoke4
>>    fact 5
>> 120
>>
>>    fib=. >&1`(i.@>:)`(] , +/@(_2&{.)@])`<: Evoke4
>>    fib 7
>> 0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13
>>
>> What is adv?  It is an adverb that adverbializes  a verb.  It is easily
>> defined in Jx but it can be also produced, without breaking any speed
>> limit, using an official interpreter (see, for example, the definition of
>> Adv0 in [1]); one can even use mu to produce such an adverb.  Let us
>> continue with the path set in [1] and produce a "quadruple" adverb (Ev4)
>> using strand style (without the intrusive `) that does not require a cap.
>> The adverb Evoke4 together with the adverb sna in [1] can produce the
>> wanted adverb Ev4 but there is a better way.
>>
>>    Ev4=. [: v0 v1 v2 v3 'v1`(v2 $:@:v3)@.v0' kappa
>>
>>    fact=. *  1:  *  <: Ev4
>>    fact 5
>> 120
>>
>>    fib=. >&1  (i.@>:)  (] , +/@(_2&{.)@])  <: Ev4
>>    fib 7
>> 0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13
>>
>> What is kappa?  It is a "multiple" adverb that produces another adverb
>> with
>> "multiplicity' equal to the number of arguments; kappa is lambda's twin.
>>
>>    Ev4=. [: v0 v1 v2 v3 (v1`(v2 $:@:v3)@.v0) lambda
>>
>>    fact=. *  1:  *  <: Ev4
>>    fact 5
>> 120
>>
>>    fib=. >&1  (i.@>:)  (] , +/@(_2&{.)@])  <: Ev4
>>    fib 7
>> 0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13
>>
>> Lambda takes directly the defining sentence without quotes and has certain
>> advantages over kappa for producing adverbs.  It follows a different
>> approach that depends neither on a verbalized agenda, nor gTxt nor
>> nest2Box.
>>
>> The latest version of Jx is still evolving but the intention is to make
>> the
>> patches for the extensions available once it settles.
>>
>> [0]  Bernecky, Robert, and R.K.W. Hui, *Gerunds and Representations*,
>> APL91,
>> ACM.
>>       http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=114059
>>
>> [1]  Tacit recursion without $:
>>
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2014-February/035416.html
>>
>>
>>
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