This could be an opportunity for the community to step up and help get
a change implemented. I'll post something on chat for those who are
interested.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:28 AM, 'Pascal Jasmin' via Programming
<[email protected]> wrote:
> or special code or defining 129!:42 or R. to something like:  1 : (':';' 
> for_i. |. x do y =. x u y end.')
>
> which may look more like the C implementation, and doesn't slow down 
> non-special code when looking for special code, and doesn't risk breaking 
> anything else.
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Reduce with initial value?
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> The language allows it, with
>
>   u&.>/@(<"_1@[ , <@])
>
> so all that would be needed is support for that form, right?
>
> The real problem is how to get an interpreter change into the released path.  
> If Marshall can't do that, what hope is there for someone like me?
>
> Henry Rich
>
> ---- Marshall Lochbaum <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Short answer: there is no efficient way (and I find this to be a huge
>> problem).
>>
>> The most recent thread on this topic is here:
>> http://jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2015-February/041005.html
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 01:53:36AM +0000, Marshall Bockrath-Vandegrift wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I'm still in the process of learning J, and trying to adapt ideas from
>> > other languages.  In many (other?) functional programming languages it is
>> > possible to reduce over a collection starting with a provided initial value
>> > which does not belong to the reduced collection.  To attempt to put this in
>> > J terms, such an operation would allow the initial value and result of each
>> > reduction step to have a different shape than that of the the items of the
>> > value being reduced. As far as I can tell, the standard `/` adverb provides
>> > no such facility. Is there a J idiom for this?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > -Marshall
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