I am pretty sure the parentheses are simply deleted during parsing, and
that what you are seeing is an elusive stack-related crash in recursion
that has been around for a while.
vr =: ($:@v0)
vr2=:$:@v0
'vr' -:&(5!:5@<) 'vr2'
1
vr
$:@v0
vr2
$:@v0
Henry Rich
On 3/19/2016 9:54 AM, Pascal Jasmin wrote:
to make a slightly off topic reply, this will crash J (win 64) (using the
definitions in replied post)
vr =: ($:@v0)
recursive2=: vr`[email protected]
recursive i.20
I can accept that I am using $: wrong, but if vr is defined as what appears to
be equivalent:
vr =: $:@v0
then recursive2 -: recursive (no crash)
Is there a special meaning to the parenthesized version that could be done
intentionally in some contexts?
----- Original Message -----
From: Louis de Forcrand <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 8:48 AM
Subject: [Jprogramming] Tail recursion
Let t3 be a recursive verb equivalent to >:@(3&{.) :
t3=: $:@}:`>:@.(3 = #)
(>:@(3&{.) -: t3) i.1e3
1
(>:@(3&{.) -: t3) i.1e4
|stack error: t3
| (>:@(3&{.)-:t3)i.10000
T3=: >:@(}:^:(-.@(3 = #))^:_)
(>:@(3&{.) -: T3) i.1e3
1
(>:@(3&{.) -: T3) i.1e4
1
Most of the time (and this is the point of this post),
$:@v0`[email protected] <—> v1@(v0^:(-.@v2)^:_)
The one possible exception is if v1 returns 1 BUT v0 is equivalent
to ] (for that particular iteration). Then the version using ^: stops,
while the recursive version doesn't. However, the problem with the
recursive version is the stack of course. This problem could be
fixed if special code existed to convert the recursive version to
an internal loop. I believe most Scheme interpreters are required
to do this, and it's called tail recursion.
In the meantime, is there a better way to write this type of verb
(tacitly)? Say, for example, that I'm trying to successively remove
divisors of each number in a list (except the number itself),
removing them in a random order. In the end I should be left with
all the numbers which have no multiples of themselves in the list
(right?). Problems arise however if the number in question is prime;
the list won't be modified that iteration, and so the ^: version would
stop there. Is there another (relatively simple) way to do this tacitly?
For example:
divisors=: (] #~ 0 = |~) >:@i.
v0=: -. }:@divisors@({~ ?@#)
v1=: ]
v2=: -.@(+./)@e. ;@:(<@}:@divisors"0)
recursive=: $:@v0`[email protected]
power=: v1@(v0^:(-.@v2)^:_)
recursive i.20
0 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
power i.20
0 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
Obviously power stops prematurely.
Note that this is an extremely inefficient way to do this and is
only for demonstration purposes.
Thanks,
Louis
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