Right, I did think it was that easy ;) As the subject of this thread clearly implies we, Dan and I, were talking about tacit adverbs. "The use of illegal steroids is not appreciated in this venue! :)"
Incidentally, the size of linear representation of Adv has a lot to do with the verbosity of linear representations of words involving atomic representations. Why should one be so concerned about it? On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > Explicit is an alternative, also. > > -- > Raul > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Jose Mario Quintana > <[email protected]> wrote: > > "There are always alternatives." I am really curious, can you produce > any > > arbitrary tacit adverb where neither @. nor `:6 appear in its code? > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> I am probably being something horrible, but... I'm kind of baffled by > >> the thinking that @. is not necessary because we can use a 532 > >> character expression instead. > >> > >> I mean, ok, sure, technically almost nothing is actually "necessary" > >> because there are always alternatives. But, taken to its logical > >> limit, computers fall in the same bucket, along with chairs, cars, and > >> a variety of other such things which begin with the letter 'c'. > >> > >> -- > >> Raul > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Jose Mario Quintana > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I am glad to see you around here Dan. If you only show around here > from > >> > time to time, or not ever again, the patrons and instructors can > learn a > >> > lot from you as your first post shows. By the way, as long as there > are > >> > patrons and instructors, it is everybody's Jym. > >> > > >> > Regarding @. ,in the context of this Jym, I also avoid it and, as far > >> as I > >> > can see, it can always be avoided (even from an orthodox standpoint) > >> > because Adv's definition [0] does not rely on it and, in principle at > >> > least, any tacit adverb can be expressed as v Adv. I currently use > it in > >> > one tool, not because it is necessary, but because the context is > ideal > >> for > >> > @. and therefore it is very efficient. > >> > > >> > [0] [Jprogramming] Tacit Toolkit (was dyadic J) > >> > > >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2015-December/043678.html > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Dan Bron <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Pepe wrote: > >> >> > Instructors (Dan, Thomas et al. are you listening?), > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I always listen when you speak, Sensei. Though in recently years my > >> review > >> >> of J Forum traffic has been more sporadic. > >> >> > >> >> > a1 =:(`{.)(`{:)(@.1 0 2) > >> >> > >> >> Hey, I never thought of doing a1 in that fashion. Neat approach. > >> >> > >> >> Personally, I keep @. in reserve, as my heavy artillery, for when my > >> >> tactical mind, unsubtle as it is, is unavailable to find a way to > route > >> my > >> >> infantry (primitive adverbs and bound primitive conjunctions) around > a > >> >> wall, and neither can my light cannon (`:6) pierce it. > >> >> > >> >> Anyway, to mix metaphors again, for those who are looking for some > >> workout > >> >> tips to train their tacit muscles (it is unwise to enter Pepe’s Jym > >> >> unprepared), here’s a few I offered once, back when I could have > been a > >> >> contender: > >> >> > >> >> > >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2010-November/021172.html < > >> >> > >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2010-November/021172.html> > >> >> > >> >> -Dan > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
