"exit" is defined in 'system/main/stdlib.ijs' at line 226 in J804.

J provides tools for timer events (see QT Demos/timer) but these timer
events won't run until J is ready for input. So a noun like a current
minute will not update while a long running script is running. If it is
that you want a noun that is updated by an external event like the time of
day it may be overkill, but you could share a name with another instance of
J which only runs a timer and updates the name when something like the
current minute changes.

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 2:59 AM, Martin Kreuzer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Don -
> Thanks for reminding me of the shortcut to minutes via (4{sdt).
>
> Don, Bill -
> Thanks for your suggestion defining the stuff as a verb (I did some
> experimenting along that road), but that doesn't put away the need to call
> it with an empty string as a parameter (sdt '') (mins ''). And I think that
> anwers my original question: it is always needed ...
> btw, (exit y) being a "wrapper" for (2!:55 y), could you point me to its
> (exit) definition..?
>
> Raul -
> Thanks for pointing me to the (wd) command reference (I wasn't aware of
> that).
> I successfully tried your timer example (having first experienced the need
> for cleanup :), but only while calling the verbs with parameter (sdt '')
> resp (mins'') -- different to what you cited in your mail where you seem to
> have used (sdt) solely ...
>
> -M
>
> At 2016-04-16 18:18, you wrote:
>
>> In addition to bill lam's excellent advice, there's also
>> http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/Window_Driver/Command_Reference
>> which may interest you. Consider, for example:    wd 'timer 30000' |value
>> error: sys_timer_z_ |   (i.0 0)"_     sys_timer_z_$0 |value error:
>> sys_timer_z_ |   (i.0 0)"_     sys_timer_z_$0 |value error: sys_timer_z_ |
>>  (i.0 0)"_     sys_timer_z_$0 Now, if I define:    sys_timer_z_=: verb def
>> 'sdt=: 6!:0 y' and wait for the timer event to go off, I have a value for
>> sdt And, now that I see that it's working (so I do not have to shut down my
>> J session to regain control), I can make the timer event run more often:
>> sdt 2016 4 16 14 11 27.4896    wd 'timer 1'    sdt 2016 4 16 14 12 30.5991
>>   sdt 2016 4 16 14 12 31.4788 Here, I have asked jqt to keep executing that
>> command line ((i.0 0)"_    sys_timer_z_$0) once every millisecond whenever
>> I'm not doing anything else. (The way it works, if something long running
>> is happening, that command line can't be run, so those events get skipped.)
>> But maybe keep in mind mickey mouse's experience in fantasia (the
>> sorcerer's apprentice): if this gets out of control, you'll have quite a
>> mess to clean up. I hope this helps, -- Raul On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 9:24
>> AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > std is a noun, (or a value
>> in other programming languages). It is usually > immutable.  Just curious,
>> why didn't you write > sdt=: 6!:0 > ppchk=: 9!:10 > or > sdt=: 3 : '6!:0 y'
>> > > min=: 3 :0 > {: 5 {. sdt y > ) > > For the other question, IEEE double
>> precision is limited to 15 or 16 > significant digits, so that print
>> precision cannot improve accuracy. > On Apr 16, 2016 6:48 PM, "Martin
>> Kreuzer" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> One of my teachers once told
>> me "It's even sillier to not ask a silly >> question" ... so here I go: >>
>> >> Extracting SystemDateTime I do get a vector like this >>    ] sdt=. 6!:0
>> '' >> 2016 4 16 9 12 59.257 >> which -from now on- has that value >>    sdt
>> >> 2016 4 16 9 12 59.257 >> >> To get the current minute I might do
>> something like >>    ] mins=. {: 5 {. sdt >> 12 >> which gives the same
>> result some time after, unless I explicitely do >>    ] mins=. {: 5 {.
>> sdt=. 6!:0 '' >> 30 >> >> Q: >> Is there a way to sort of "wrap" the
>> foreign (6!:0 '') so that "sdt" will >> show the _current_ date/time string
>> when called..? >> (Sorry if I missed to make myself clear.) >> >> Same
>> question arose when e.g. trying stuff like >> -- check print precision >>
>>   ppchk=. 9!:10 '' >> -- set print precision >>    ppset=. 3 : '9!:11 (y)'
>> NB. seems to work ... >>    ppset 7 >> >>    9!:10 '' >> 7 >>    ppchk >> 7
>> >>    ppset 11 >> >>    9!:10 '' >> 11 >>    ppchk  NB. has (of course)
>> still the previous value ... >> 7 >> >> And (again) here comes the silly >>
>> Q: >> Is there a way to define "sdt" or "ppchk" (from above) so that they
>> >> immediately react to changes to the environment..? >> (Looks to me if
>> I'm asking for a verb without a noun to act on; is that >> the moment the
>> empty string ('') comes into play and the dog chases its >> tail..?) >> >>
>> -M >> >>
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