How can update assignment be relevant when assigning default values?

Thanks,

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Raul


On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:43 AM, 'Pascal Jasmin' via Programming
<[email protected]> wrote:
> pretty much any use of =:
>
> (newrec ;reclookup) update assignwith 'database'
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>
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> ________________________________
> From: Raul Miller <[email protected]>
> To: Programming forum <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Request for comments: multiple assignment
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> In what sort of cases are in-place optimizations a relevant issue for
> assigning default values?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Raul
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:06 AM, 'Pascal Jasmin' via Programming
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The way I handle that,
>>
>> assignwithC
>> 2 : 0
>> (y) =: u (y~ [ ]) :: (n"_) 1
>> :
>> (y) =: x u (y~ [ ]) :: (n"_) 1
>> )
>>
>>
>> I think the call for =:: and =.. is based on 2 things.
>>
>> 1.  Although defaults and "ORvals"/unassigned default values can be handled 
>> easily enough through J expressions, for 805 anyway, it lost any inplace 
>> optimizations.
>>
>> 2. it only works for =: and not =.
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Marshall Lochbaum <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Request for comments: multiple assignment
>>
>>
>> Does this scheme support easily assigning a default value to a variable,
>> that is, assigning only if the name is currently unused? This is a
>> common case for me and I'm just now realizing that the "default" option
>> doesn't really do that.
>>
>> See https://github.com/mlochbaum/JSound/blob/master/wav.ijs for an
>> example, where I'm forced to write an awkward line of code to set the
>> default format to 16-bit 44.1kHz. This seems easy enough to support with
>> another trailing character on the name, like ^ or ?. So I would write
>>    'FMT? F?' =: 1 16;44100
>> instead of the current version.
>>
>> On a side note, Earl Grey is a good language to look at if you are
>> interested in more sophisticated assignment schemes. I don't know if
>> much of it is relevant to J, but it's very cool to see what can happen
>> if you build a language to handle pattern matching from the bottom up.
>> See http://www.earl-grey.io/doc.html, up to the section on pattern
>> matching.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 01:40:52AM -0400, HenryRich wrote:
>>> Here is a feature that I have wanted for a long time:
>>>
>>> http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Interpreter/Requests#Expanded_Multiple_Assignment
>>>
>>> It attempts to solve the problem of moving verb arguments into
>>> variable-names.  Allows defaults and multilevel arguments.  I will implement
>>> this within a month or so, so get your comments in ASAP.
>>>
>>> Henry Rich
>>>
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