Maybe he didn’t understand your original question?

In any case it seems you could use a lesson in good manners.

Louis

> On 8 Oct 2017, at 10:58, Erling Hellenäs <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Many people here have a habit of giving long lectures to people about things 
> they already know to make it appear like they are totally stupid and they 
> themselves are very clever and are teaching this stupid person even the most 
> basic things. /Erling
> 
>> On 2017-10-08 01:25, Don Guinn wrote:
>> I don't think that it works like you would expect.
>> 
>>    (p , 0 $ p =: ]) 'erling'
>> erling
>>    p
>> ]
>>    (p , 0 $ 'p' =: ]) 'erling'
>> erling
>>    p
>> ]
>>    (p , 0 $ 'p' =: ])
>> p , 0 $ ]
>>    4 !:0 <'p'
>> 3
>> 
>> Turns out that "p" is a verb who's value is "]", as you would expect. And
>> of course the result of the expression is the right argument.
>> 
>>    (p , 1 $ p =: ]) 'erling'
>> erlinge
>> 
>> But as you can see the assignment disappears. The test above shows that
>> both "p"s select the right argument.
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Erling Hellenäs <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all !
>>> 
>>> I was trying to understand how thecopula verbs =..and=:: works in tacit
>>> expressions.
>>> 
>>>    (p , 0 $ 'p' =.. ]) 'erling'
>>> |value error: p
>>> |       (p,0$'p'=..])'erling'
>>>    ('p' =.. ]) 'erling'
>>> erling
>>> 
>>>    (p , 0 $ 'p' =.. ]) 'erling'
>>> erling
>>>    (p , 0 $ 'p' =.. ]) 'fredrik'
>>> erling
>>>    (p , 0 $ 'p' =.. ]) 'fredrik'
>>> fredrik
>>>    (p , 0 $ 'p' =.. ])
>>> 'fredrik' , 0 $ 'p' =.. ]
>>> 
>>> I wonder if it is really useful in tacit expressions, and in that case,
>>> how it can be used.
>>> It is only used to set variables outside of the expressions, not to use
>>> the variables in the expressions?
>>> Useful in for example debugging?
>>> 
>>> This is from the documentation:
>>> "The copula verbs =..and=:: are similar to their corresponding copulas but
>>> are syntactically dyadic verbs and may be embedded in tacit expressions."
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Erling Hellenäs
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2017-10-07 16:09, Erling Hellenäs wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all!
>>>> 
>>>> We are micro-blogging about Jx here. https://twitter.com/erlheldata
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Erling Hellenäs
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2017-10-06 17:01, 'Mike Day' via Programming wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, BIll
>>>>> I probably knew that route sometime in the past.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just in case someone else needs to know,  this is what I've actually
>>>>> done.  This is for Windows 10,  as I said earlier:-
>>>>> 
>>>>> - "create shortcut" from each of the "shortcuts" seen in the Windows
>>>>>    "desktop" (as installed for jqt and jconsole)
>>>>> - rename each according to taste
>>>>> - edit the "target" shown in their "properties" dialogue,
>>>>>    according to your suggestion,  but with full pathname for
>>>>>    "jx.dll",
>>>>>       in my case: C:\d\j806\bin\jqt.exe -lib C:\d\j806\bin\jx.dll
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pace Thomas Costigliola,  I had tried duplicating the whole installation,
>>>>> but that's rather greedy for space!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks to both,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS - should debug work under JQt with jx.dll ?
>>>>> CTRL-K invokes a domain error for me:
>>>>> |domain error: script
>>>>> 
>>>>> | FRINGEBORDER=: (<0 0 0 1)"0 FRINGECOLOR
>>>>> 
>>>>> |[-4849] c:\d\j806\addons\debug\dissect\dissect.ijs
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> clicking instead on Run/Debug results in
>>>>> 
>>>>> |value error: jdebug_run
>>>>> 
>>>>> | jdebug_run 0
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> M
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 06/10/2017 03:46, bill lam wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rename the jx j.dll as jx.dll, then type
>>>>>> jconsole -lib jx.dll
>>>>>> jqt -lib jx.dll
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or rename the official j.dll depending which one will become your
>>>>>> favorite.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 5, 2017 5:29 PM, "'Mike Day' via Programming" <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK - I've got the Jx 1.1 j.dll and the various accessory information,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> suppose I want
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> to try jx and compare it with the "orthodox" J806?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do you advocate setting up a complete "JX" installation parallel with
>>>>>>> J806
>>>>>>> (or J805 ...),
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> or can it somehow share those orthodox folder/s,  given that j.dll is
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> only difference?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 30/09/2017 22:27, Jose Mario Quintana wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jx 1.1 Release
>>>>>>>> A Jx v1.1 Extensions Guide, a J/Jx Cheatsheet, a Jx Assertions script
>>>>>>>> together with links to a Windows 64 bit dll, a Unix 64 bit so binaries
>>>>>>>> (without avx support) and the patch corresponding to the J806 source
>>>>>>>> (beta-6) can be found at the link [0].
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Primitives
>>>>>>>>       Added     =.. =:: $:: [. ]. ]: ".. `. &:.(*) ?:(*) i.. O.
>>>>>>>>       Extended  ~ $.
>>>>>>>>       Modified  " (*)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Foreign
>>>>>>>>       Added     104!:5 Unnamed Execution  102!:0/1 In-place
>>>>>>>> Amend/Append
>>>>>>>> (*)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Trains
>>>>>>>>       a v    Added
>>>>>>>>       a a    Extended
>>>>>>>>       c a    Resurrected and extended (*)
>>>>>>>>       a c a  Resurrected and extended (*)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Spelling
>>>>>>>>       Names with Unicode characters
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (*) New Jx 1.1 feature
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This release introduces a modified primitive (") and, in theory, for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> first time an incompatibility vs the official J counterpart (J806
>>>>>>>> beta-6)
>>>>>>>> ;
>>>>>>>> however, in practice, it is highly unlikely to break any existent
>>>>>>>> code and
>>>>>>>> doubters have an opportunity to test their code.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is a simple 1-decade-old example [1],
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>      ]`|."1 i.5 6
>>>>>>>>    0  1  2  3  4  5
>>>>>>>> 11 10  9  8  7  6
>>>>>>>> 12 13 14 15 16 17
>>>>>>>> 23 22 21 20 19 18
>>>>>>>> 24 25 26 27 28 29
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> See also the threads [2, 3] for recent discussions.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The rank of the verb ?: has been changed to 0 0 0 to make it easier to
>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Three venerable facilities are released:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - The conjunction (&:.), for the motivation, see the post [4] (see
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> post [5] both, its reference and the embedded discussion for similar
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> recent ideas).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - 102!:0/1 In-place Amend/Append, be very careful (see [6]); if you
>>>>>>>> do not
>>>>>>>> know what to expect, play with their corresponding models instead.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> PS.  There are a couple of other goodies which will be documented
>>>>>>>> later.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [0] Jx 1.1 Release
>>>>>>>>       http://www.2bestsystems.com/foundation/j/jx1.1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [1] [Jprogramming] zig-zag order  Oleg Kobchenko
>>>>>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2006-Novembe
>>>>>>>> r/004188.htm
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [2] [Jprogramming] How m"n shoulda been defined  Henry Rich
>>>>>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2015-August/
>>>>>>>> 042512.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [3] [Jprogramming] Jx version 1.0 release  Henry Rich
>>>>>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2017-August/
>>>>>>>> 048124.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [4] [Jforum] Wasted intermediate values  Jose Mario Quintana
>>>>>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/general/2003-March/014488.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [5] [Jprogramming] Fold/reduce with initial value?  R.E. Boss
>>>>>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2015-Februar
>>>>>>>> y/041015.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [6] [Jprogramming] Tacit J and indexed replacement  Jose Mario
>>>>>>>> Quintana
>>>>>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2014-July/038515.html
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