The key word is "allowed."  For example,

   * <adv
┌─┐
│*│
└─┘
   X=. * <adv

   2 (>X) 3
6

Of course, they can break the rules,

   t3=. 1 : 'x <adv'
   * t3
┌─┐
│*│
└─┘

Furthermore, tacit verbs can (break the rules and) produce entities which
explicit verbs are not allowed, in an even stronger sense, to produce,

   t4=. 1 : 'x (3 : ''< y'') adv'

   * t4
|noun result was required: t4
|       <y




On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Jose Mario Quintana
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Not necessarily, explicit adverbs can do whatever a (v hg) adverb can;
> > however, (v adv) can do things that explicit adverbs are not allowed to
> do.
>
> Are you sure?
>
> If by "do" you mean something about the details of how the adverb is
> structured, ok - but that is not a constraint on the relationship
> between the argument and the result, which is not what I would think
> that the word "do" refers to.
>
> And, in that general vein, I suppose extreme constraints on uses of
> names might somehow qualify, also. (Though for this to be relevant to
> anything you sort of have to ignore the significant use of names which
> comes with our typical J usage.)
>
> That said, there might be interesting cases, involving resource limits
> where (v hg) does something which an explicit workalike does not. But
> I can't think of any other reason why a (v hg) adverb could do
> anything that an explicit adverb cannot.
>
> Put differently, can you give any examples of this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Raul
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