Addendum:

Consider, in contrast, the behaviour of this *explicit* definition:

   ee=. 3 : 'T - T=. ?y'
   ee 10+i.7
0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Same result as working *outside* a verb definition:

   ] T=.  ? 10+i.7
6 6 0 9 12 1 5
   T - T
0 0 0 0 0 0 0

-M

At 2018-10-17 11:40, you wrote:

Let's modify Jose's example (by taking the *difference* of two identocal terms):

NB. this works as expected:

   d=. 13 : 'T - T=. +:y'
   d 10+i.7
0 0 0 0 0 0 0

NB. this doesn't:

   e=. 13 : 'T - T=. ?y'
   e 10+i.7
_1 1 5 _5 8 _2 _4

NB. this yields the same result (zero) for every argument:

   d
+--+-+--+
|+:|-|+:|
+--+-+--+
+: - +:

NB. this yields arbitrary results (because minuend and subtrahend do not necessaryly have the same value):
   e
+-+-+-+
|?|-|?|
+-+-+-+
? - ?

But ... from the underlying structure they should have.

NB. in comparison this works as intended:

   f=. 13 : 'T - T=. ?.y'
   f 10+i.7
0 0 0 0 0 0 0
   f
+--+-+--+
|?.|-|?.|
+--+-+--+
?. - ?.

-M


At 2018-10-17 10:22, you wrote:

Jose,

You said: You might be interested to know that 13 : '...' occasionally is too smart; some verbs, such as ?, which do not always produce the same result given the same argument, sometimes do not mix well with 13 : '...'; for example,

Something is not wrong when verbs with ? don't agree. I would worry is they did agree. They areproducing different results each time they are used.

Linda


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Linda,

You might be interested to know that 13 : '...' occasionally is too smart; some verbs, such as ?, which do not always produce the same result given the same argument, sometimes do not mix well with 13 : '...'; for example,

   ( u=.  3 : ' T + (T=. ? y)' )
3 : ' T + (T=. ? y)'

and
   ( v=. 13 : ' T + (T=. ? y)' )
? + ?

do not mean the same process.

I hope it helps

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