On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 6:21 PM Jose Mario Quintana <jose.mario.quint...@gmail.com> wrote: > May I start from the beginning? > > > > an=. <@:((,'0') ,&:< ])f. NB. Atomizing nouns (monadic verb) > > > > > > (<,'"') ` (an 1) (`:6) > > > "1 > > > (<,'"') ` (an 1) @. 0 1 > > > "1 > > > > > > They are considered illegal because, > > Can you, or anyone else, confirm of deny that the last two sentences above > are illegal in J? In addition, if they are illegal, what is the rationale?
I can't think of any reason to believe that this is illegal. I do slightly prefer the current handling of this issue at https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/graveco ('If m is a gerund, m`:n creates a verb based on m') over that at https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/atdot (which is more of a scattering of statements representing lesser examples, which do not seem to be expressed conditionally). But it might also be worthwhile adding to the wiki brief mentions that a list of atomic representations, when treated as a train, is currently handled based on how J's parser would treat that sequence of atoms. And, that a single element atomic representation, when treated as a train, gives the thing represented by that atomic representation. Documentation is a group effort, and good documentation helps everyone. That said, I do imagine that there could be contexts which would throw an error when handed the atomic representation of a non-verb (or a non-verb resulting from a train) even though those contexts accept the atomic representations of verbs (or verbs). Similarly, there are contexts which would throw an error for the number 0 even though they might allow other numbers. Also, I would expect that if the implementation changes, making something that used to be legal into something illegal, that that would be accompanied by an explanation of why this would be seen as advantageous. (This might happen if someone rigs up a J subset to compile to another language, especially during early stages of such a project. For example.) Does this help at all? Thanks, -- Raul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm