Eh...
From my perspective, tacit code is a useful tool.
This does not mean that explicit code is a useless tool. Explicit code
is also useful.
It's certainly possible to code large systems in pure tacit form. But
I wouldn't go there unless I felt that the consequent obfuscation was
a value add for my context.
That said, I do understand the gut feeling that a simple data pipeline
ought to have a simple tacit representation.
Thanks,
--
Raul
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 8:07 AM Julian Fondren <jfond...@minimaltype.com> wrote:
>
> On 2020-07-09 06:27, Raul Miller wrote:
> > I don't know what you would use this for, though, so probably it could
> > have a better name.
>
> It just comes up in normal code that you have a non-tacit train
> of monadic verbs. To pick one at random:
>
> echo # ucp 'こんにちは'
>
> And generalizing these into an explicit verb is very clean:
>
> cpoints =: 3 : 'echo # ucp y'
>
> But this not the case with a tacit verb:
>
> cpoints =: [: echo [: # [: ucp
> cpoints =: echo @: # @: ucp
>
> However you do it you introduce a lot of visual noise that's
> completely absent in the original code.
>
> So I don't think there's a particular use-case for atred,
> rather there's a feeling of frustration with the outcome of
> making some code tacit.
>
>
> I'd guess that a better solution is just 13 :
>
> Here are some uses of that in J packages:
>
> demos/wdplot/pledit.ijs
>
> getfontsz=: 13 : '{.1{._1 -.~ _1 ". y'
>
> demos/isigraph/isedit.ijs
>
> getfontsize=. 13 : '{.1{._1 -.~ _1 ". y'
>
> games/bagofnouns/bagofnounsgui.ijs
>
> crlftolf =: 13 : '(-. (CR,LF) E. y) # y'
> lflftolf =: 13 : '(-. (LF,LF) E. y) # y'
>
> general/misc/pack.ijs
>
> pget=: 13 : '> {: y {~ ({."1 y) i. {. boxopen,x'
> psel=: 13 : 'y {~ ({."1 y) i. ;: ::] x'
>
> misc/miscutils/utils.ijs
>
> tod =: 13 : '6!:0 y'
> todhms =: 13 : '3 }. tod y'
> todymd =: 13 : '3 {. <. tod y'
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