Very happy with that approach.
(Although age can become an issue.)

R.E. Boss


-----Original Message-----
From: Programming <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Eric 
Iverson
Sent: vrijdag 17 september 2021 16:46
To: Programming forum <[email protected]>
Subject: [Jprogramming] language changes - self effacing

Michal,

Your comment: "what's up with this new `name::` syntax?"
stirred up interesting stuff.

The change was in a beta, so was intended to promote discussion.

Henry's response: "Possession is nine points of the law. :)"
did have a smile, was a simple fact, and should absolutely not be taken to mean 
that the discussion is over. Jsoftware has a good track record of backing out 
of mistakes :)

Your comment triggered a serious new look. We (back to that in a minute) 
decided that:
1. the change would lose a whole whack of good primitives: a:: A:: abc::
etc::
2. self effacing is for esoteric performance and should not have such a big 
footprint

The next beta will probably adopt a spelling of name_: for self effacing.

Your message triggered good discussion and time will tell if it boils down to a 
solid proposal. Though I confess to being very leery of more mechanism for 
assignment in tacit.

The WE referred to earlier is myself, Chris, Henry, and Bill. This has worked 
reasonably well since we lost Ken and Roger had less and less involvement.

We don't vote, proceed cautiously, and with consensus.

The time is overdue for the involvement of more people and more formal 
mechanisms. We will move in that direction, but cautiously. Probably the first 
step will be creating a more appropriate media than the programming forum for 
language changes.
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