I think that's a little harsh on the debugger.

For my first 20 years of programming I single-stepped through every program before trying anything bigger.  That's an effective way to develop IMO.  If you keep your eyes open you can find most of your errors.  The J visual debugger has good support for this approach.

When I started with J, the debugger couldn't be relied on, and I got into the habit of debugging by other means.  I make my code work but I miss the intimacy of watching each line run.

I think the debugger is robust enough now that I could single-step again.  Maybe I'll try.  I certainly wouldn't discourage a newcomer who wanted to do that.

Henry Rich

On 4/6/2022 4:50 PM, Ian Clark wrote:
Ha-ha!
(…and I thought J online help was bad!)

What was I hoping for when I said "First Aid"? If I'd said "In Case Of
Fire" you'd find equally hideous examples.

I meant "First Aid for the J novice". I was hinting at something brief and
helpful.

But what's the briefest, most helpful thing one can say to the J novice,
faced with a bug in their explicit verb?
Something like this?

How To Use Debug
Don't.


It doesn't matter. I've already answered Raul's question on a different
thread. On reflection I'd go for something like this:

https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Plot




On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 17:52, Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 4:20 AM Ian Clark <earthspo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Be nice if the result could look more like first aid than a semester
course.

Something like this?

http://www.andyheld.com/wfr_info.htm

Or more like this?


https://winapps.umt.edu/winapps/media2/wilderness/toolboxes/documents/ranger/SAW_WFA%20Ref%20Cards.pdf

Or more like this?

https://tools.niehs.nih.gov/wetp/public/Course_download2.cfm?tranid=10038

Thanks,

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