I am in favor of linebreak as well as a linejoin. I'd very much like to
have an easier to type NB.

.. NB.
... linejoin (followed by comment)
.... linebreak

I used to think internal and nested comments were important, but not
anymore. Not enough bang for the required mechanism.



On Sat, Apr 1, 2023 at 10:48 AM Jan-Pieter Jacobs <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd be in favour of both .. and ... .
> Regarding ... , I'd like to note that Matlab uses the same as line joiner
> (see
>
> https://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/matlab_prog/continue-long-statements-on-multiple-lines.html
> ),
> and also turns everything after that into a comment (which is very handy).
> This would let one also comment longer tacit verbs well, without any
> extraneous NB.'s . Trivial example would be:
> avg =: ...
> +/ ... sum
> % ... divided by
> # ... count
>
> Your first comment would be incompatible with the easy commenting (without
> using NB.).
>
> I don't like the .:. proposal, since it is more difficult to type different
> characters instead of the same; I'd rather have ::: (could imagine them
> looking like the holes for shoelaces, that can be used to tie together
> lines)...
>
> Jan-Pieter
>
>
>
> On Sat, 1 Apr 2023, 11:26 Elijah Stone, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Some time ago, Michal proposed that a line separator be added.  I want to
> > rekindle that discussion.  The proposal was that .. behave like a line
> > break
> > when placed on a single line, such that e.g. {{ a=. y+y .. a }} 2 would
> do
> > the
> > obvious thing.  Short, distinctive, and to the point.
> >
> > I also want to propose a line _joiner_, analogous to \ in shell or c:
> ...,
> > placed at the beginning or end of a line should join it with the previous
> > or
> > next.  Joining lines happens _after_ stripping comments, unlike the other
> > languages I cited; the goal is to enable large, multi-line definitions
> > with
> > commentary for intermediate terms, without the need for pointless
> > intermediate
> > definitions.
> >
> > It might be objectionable to use such similar symbols for separators and
> > joiners.  But maybe it's not such a big deal.  Two more ideas:
> >
> > 1. Could use the _same_ symbol for both, with its sense depending on
> where
> > it's placed in a line.
> >
> > 2. Separator could be .:.; metaphor: a hill stops the interpreter in its
> > tracks.
> >
> > I don't like 2 because the larger the separator is, the more annoying it
> > is to
> > use.  Joiner can afford to be large, since it only comes into play if the
> > rest
> > of the line is sufficiently large.
> >
> > Anyway--thoughts?  Comments?  Suggestions?
> >
> >   -E
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