I found that 0&e. could be marginally faster than *./
Testing on x and y, both (0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~:) and ([: -. 0 e. ~:) are 
faster than *./@~:

Also (0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~:) is faster than ([: -. 0 e. ~:), is there any particular reason or it is just random.

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regards,
bill
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