"Useless" covers a lot of ground.  I would say that
in the domain of image processing  f&> x <;._3 y  
and "useless" are different sets, nor is the former
a subset of the latter.



----- Original Message -----
From: Henry Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 14:16
Subject: RE: [Jprogramming] Memory inefficiency in ;.3 ?
To: 'Programming forum' <[email protected]>

> Ihat implementation is useless for image processing, then.
> 
> I guess row&(col&(f;._3);._3) would be a factor-of-7
> wasteful rather than a factor-of-49, so maybe that'll work
> on my smaller pictures.
> 
> 'Twould be nice to apply u inside the loop rather than creating
> all the input sets first.
> 
> Henry Rich
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Hui
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:57 PM
> > To: Programming forum
> > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Memory inefficiency in ;.3 ?
> > 
> > Judging from the following:
> > 
> >    y=: i.1e3
> >    7!:2 '3 0:;._3 y'
> > 178944
> >    7!:2 '0:&> 3 <;._3 y'
> > 179264
> > 
> > I would guess that the second expression closely
> > approximates how the first is implemented.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Henry Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 13:12
> > Subject: [Jprogramming] Memory inefficiency in ;.3 ?
> > To: 'Programming forum' <[email protected]>
> > 
> > > I have a computation (details below) which boils down to
> > > 
> > > x big_ugly_f;.3 y
> > > 
> > > y has shape (n,m,3) and big_ugly_f returns a list of shape 
> ,3 .
> > > 
> > > Now I would expect that the memory used by big_ugly_f would be
> > > returned to the free pool after each use, so that the overall
> > > space used would be the space needed for an input subarray of
> > > shape ($x),((#$x)}.$y), plus a float result of
> > > shape (n,m,1 3), plus some smallish multiple of the space
> > > needed for one invocation of big_ugly_f.
> > > 
> > > But it actually uses much more space than that, and I
> > > fail with out of memory.
> > > 
> > > The details:
> > > 
> > >    lpfhuesize =: '7'
> > >    cutsize =. >: <.&.-: ". lpfhuesize
> > >    centerpix =. <2 # -: <: cutsize
> > >    huefilt =: (2#cutsize)& 
> > > (((1&|)@(0.5p_1&*)@(12&o.)@:(+/%#)@:,@:(2&{"1 *
> > > (_12&o.@:(2p1&*))@:(0&{"1))  (0}) centerpix&{);._3) 
> > >    7!:2 'huefilt i. 50 50 3'
> > > 3013952
> > >    7!:2 'huefilt i. 500 500 3'
> > > 381267520
> > > 
> > > It seems that something big is being retained for each 
> subarray 
> > > processed.The subarray itself is 1176 bytes, which is about 
> the 
> > > right size to account
> > > for the space used, if it isn't rounded up to a power-of-2 
> > > boundary; is it
> > > possible that the subarrays or something else are not freed 
> > > until the operation
> > > completes?
> > > 
> > >   The behavior I expect is what I see from 
> big_ugly_f"3 :
> > > 
> > >    hf =: 
> (((1&|)@(0.5p_1&*)@(12&o.)@:(+/%#)@:,@:(2&{"1 
> > > * (_12&o.@:(2p1&*))@:(0&{"1))  (0})
> > > centerpix&{))"3
> > >    arg2 =. 0.5 + i. 2 7 7 3
> > >    arg20 =. 0.5 + i. 20 7 7 3
> > >    arg200 =. 0.5 + i. 200 7 7 3
> > >    7!:2 'hf arg2'
> > > 7616
> > >    7!:2 'hf arg20'
> > > 8576
> > >    7!:2 'hf arg200'
> > > 15744
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