Henry,

some observations on the (intriguing for me) matrix-determinant part of:
   isconvex=: ([:({.*./@:=}.)[:*1(-/ .*)@(1 1 1&,)\.])"2

1. the matrices you compose for calculating the determinants are not
square (but if I do understand the working of 'dot' then it's no problem
to use it this way in J)

2. the following variants produce the same result:

isconvex1 =. ([: ({. *./@:= }.) [: * 1 (-/ . *)@(,.&1 1 1)\. ])"2 NB.
square matrices
isconvex2=: ([: ({. *./@:= }.) [: * 1 -/ . *\. ])"2
points=:sortloops (?10000 4 2$1000)

  (isconvex1-:isconvex)points
1

(isconvex2-:isconvex)points
1

ts 'isconvex points'
3.251488 22208

ts 'isconvex1 points'
0.225882 19264

ts 'isconvex2 points'
0.715514 20160

...interesting difference those last two (huh ??)



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Henry Rich schreef:
> Also, D cannot be freely chosen, because some positions of D will make
> ABCDA not minimal.
>
> isconvex =. ([: ({. *./@:= }.) [: * 1 (-/ . *)@(1 1 1&,)\. ])"2
>
> (+/ % #) isconvex sortloops (?.10000 4 2$1000)
> 0.6959
> (+/ % #) isconvex sortloops (?10000 4 2$1000)
> 0.6911
> (+/ % #) isconvex sortloops (?10000 4 2$1000)
> 0.6847
>
> close to 1 - 1%pi.
>
> Henry Rich
>
>
> Boyko Bantchev wrote:
>> 2008/12/10 John Randall <[email protected]>:
>>> My initial thought is this: Draw the first 3 sides A->B->C. Let D be the
>>> other vertex. Then ABCD is convex iff D lies on the opposite side of the
>>> line AC from B. This gives probability at least 1/2 for your question.
>> ABCD will still be concave if D is, e.g., on the opposite side of BC
>> from A.
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