On May 30, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Joey K Tuttle wrote:

> Of interest to typesetters -
>
>   http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123992364819927171.html
>
> The memory of that article jumped out of the remarks below...
>
> - joey
>
> At 20:41  +0100 2009/05/30, Ian Clark wrote:
>> Watching this with interest, due to my typesetting task of "At Play
>> With J" Edn 2. (See JChat).
>>
>> It's the considered opinion of BAA Vector typesetters (not just me)
>> that (in-line) J is a swine to typeset. APL is relatively benign.
>> Periods and colons are unmistakable. A-Z and numerals are  
>> sufficiently
>> different from the narrative fonts in use by Vector (Book Antiqua).
>> There's 50 years of experience with in-line APL.
>>
>> I haven't seen a proposal yet for a J font which overcomes the
>> problems. APWJ Edn1 & 2 uses APL385 Unicode for J code as well as  
>> APL,
>> to recruit some of the subtle benefits of in-line APL. This is based
>> on Comic Sans. I myself when editing the definitive Word document  
>> have
>> an in-line-J style with a yellow background. The colour is removed
>> just prior to generating the camera-ready PDF. We're tempted to leave
>> the colour in the PDF -- where it will come out mid-grey.
>>
>> Alas, incoming source material often lacks clear delineation of the
>> in-line J code -- or if present it can't be trusted. It's a
>> compounding factor that the back-tick used by Moinmoin to delineate
>> in-line J is also a valid J character.
>>
>> Ian Clark
>>
>>
>> 2009/5/30 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>:
>>> =.
>>> It could be an idea to show the operations with very large fonts and
>>> separated by blanks in teaching material so the DOTS will stand  
>>> out well
>>>
>>> 2009/5/30 Devon McCormick <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> On the other hand, it would be nice to have a display font for J  
>>>> with the
>>>> small "dot" characters (period and colon) more prominently  
>>>> emphasized.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Roger Hui <[email protected]>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I believe that "The Design of J", if it had been written,
>>>>> would have frowned on such font tricks, having learned
>>>>> from the bitter experience with the special characters
>>>>> in APL.
>>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Devon McCormick, CFA
>>>> ^me^ at acm.
>>>> org is my
>>>> preferred e-mail
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>  |     ) |         (\_ _/)
>>>  (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ??????
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>
Joey,

I have a Greek New Testament.  In it the beginning of the Gospel of  
John is (quite roughly) :

"en arxe eyn  ho logos, kai ho logos eyn pros ton theon, kai theos  
eyn  ho logos ...

which in English reads: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word  
was with God and the word was God"

What would it take to get a Greek font on my computer?



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