> There were two job titles
> in IBM Hursley: "programmer" and "engineer" (I was one of the latter)
> and they didn't even p*** in the same johns. Engineers don't believe
> programmers know the first thing about engineering: they see them as
> having more in common with theologians. Mullahs.

Same at IBM Raleigh.  (I was a programmer.)

The engineers had a short course called 'Programming For Engineers'. 
That seemed a bit pompous, so we countered with a short course 
'Engineering For Programmers'.  About as useful, I expect.

Henry Rich

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